Andy, I apologize for replying before thinking about my replies. I was not meaning to get personal, although I can certainly understand that I came across as such. Again, I apologize.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, as am I entitled to mine. What angered me, and I would guess most others as well, is how you are telling us what's best for us, the community, based upon your personal belief/value system. Simply put, neither you, nor I, nor any other -individual- is entitled to determine what is best for the -community-. That is reserved for the community as a whole to decide. Now then, when it comes to spec work, I actually agree with you. Recently, one of my clients, after we had agreed to terms, pricing, etc on another new project for them, comes back a couple of weeks later and says "okay, I need a spec doc by in the morning". I told him that a spec doc wasn't part of the agreement, and it was going to cost X amount in addition to get it done. As hard as that is to do to a returning client, I did it because, like you, I won't do spec work for free. The problem here (other than the whole "what's good for the community" aspect) is that I cannot for the life me understand how you can consider a -community- project to be spec work. It isn't anything even close to spec work. It's a group of individuals, in this case designers, who are submitting their "ideas", which may or may not be used (as is the case in ALL -community- projects), in an effort to give back to the -community- out of gratitude for what the -community- has done for them in the past. Again, my apologies for making it personal, as that was most definitely not my intent. I responded *incorrectly* out of anger over being told by someone else what was good (or not good) for me. Matt On 2/12/07, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I apologize for the last two emails I sent out. This conversation was > obviously over with and I started it up again. > > Please don't responsd to either of these. I'm the one being a jerk. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 8:18 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Fusebox Web Site Design Contest Announced > > Matt... > > Why are you being a jerk? It's obvious to me that all you're trying to do > is > to stir up trouble. If you had taken even a few moments to read the links > that I posted in my second email, you would have read that there are LOADS > of orgranizations who feel the same way I do about spec work. > > So do ME a favor and don't make this personal. If you don't agree with me, > that's fine...I won't lose any sleep over it. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:269580 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
