On 2/21/07, Andy Tyrone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Well, actually, once you go AJAX, you kinda want it
> > everywhere.  It truly
> > is a different way of doing stuff than the old "static" way.
> > What's that
> > quote... we're just now getting back to where we were 10 years ago, UI
> > wise.... something like that.
>
> Well, I really disagree with that statement.  I don't want it "everywhere"
> -- just where it makes sense to me and fits the business model.  To use
> something "just because you can" isn't really a reason to.


I was referring to the fact that, usually, when you're just updating
a DIV or two -which is the main way of communicating "simi-real-time"
with your user when doing "AJAX"- you generally do things with the
"onclick" of an "a href" type tag.

Totally different behavior than your default "pre web 2.0" type stuff.  =]

Validating a form after it's been submitted isn't an "old, static way".

Users expect certain behaviors of HTML forms, and overuse of AJAX or any
> other "in your face" methods that can be applied to "real-time" validation
> (read: interruption to the user) are unexpected behaviors and will more
> than
> likely make the user go somewhere else.  This is all relative to the
> application, who is using it and what it does, of course, but for the
> general audience of internet users the last thing you want to do is turn
> their world upside down with the unexpected when they are trying to
> perform
> a simple action they've performed a thousand times before.


All of the above assumes some sort of prior expectation- and believe it
or not, /there are better ways/.

I'm not just a coder, I'm a user.
:]


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