Will Tomlinson wrote on Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:28 AM >about some advice to the CF Team regarding validation issues
Andy Matthews responded on Friday, 9 March 2007 5:55 a.m. > Other than for personal satisfaction, what does it matter if > your page validates? Does it validate if you take that line > out? If that's all it is then I wouldn't' worry about it. I'm with Andy on this one and it is NOT because I'm against standards. And then Dana Kowalski wrote on Friday, 9 March 2007 7:11 a.m. > I honestly hate that kind of attitude from a good portion of > the CF community. Web Standards are a reality. If you are > running a shop and putting out web products eventually you > will run into this where you're app won't validate and theres > nothing to do but simply stop using the feature. Dana, I understand what you are saying (and I don't totally disagree with the hardline stance - invalid is invalid) but I believe Andy's suggestion was solely from a developer perspective working with invalid code and was itself perfectly valid. With the combination of web technologies ((x)html, CSS, DOM etc) a developer can and *should* strive to meet certain levels of validation, including both mark-up and CSS. They should also meet certain levels of accessibility, in my opinion. These web standards are here to help everyone, not hinder them, so in the case of a developer who cannot control an area of code output, then it is more than reasonable to accept in that instance that it wont and *cant* validate, and then move forward. If you have attempted validation and the rest of your code is ok, then you have done your part. That's not to say you shouldn't put a case to the original vendor about product issues in an attempt to have them fixed. You should, as should I and every diligent developer using said product. > Just saying 'eh who cares' is what leads to having to have 30 > lines of css hacks on a site simply to support a handful of > browsers. I disagree. That would be one browser manufacturer in particular who used to think like that which caused the resulting melee of hacks required for cross browser compatibility. And after a fair amount of bitching from the design community, they decided to do something about it (although I'm not suggesting cause and effect here). Mark -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by ISPNZ's automated virus detection system, and is believed to be clean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:272114 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4

