Judah, I definitely see your point. I guess I'm looking at this from a "developer of may websites / apps", none of which are as "mission-critical" as, say, an e-commerce app.
If I just worked on one site, say for a company that I worked for, I could see taking the time and expense of creating multiple versions of a site, etc. But as an independent developer whose clients almost always want things created as inexpensively as possible, it's difficult to justify the time spent creating a "one-size fits all" site, when I'm not getting compensation for that work. For one of my sites, my stats tell me that 98.63% of users have javascript enabled. The other .37% aren't worth the extra work. And if they do have trouble and don't know what it is, then perhaps they'll dig a little bit and get javascript enabled. (If they're allowed to...) Eventually, I may come to the point where I do code for both, but right now I'm just starting to use JS for validation, so it's new to me. I'll have to start with crawling, then walking, then running... Rick -----Original Message----- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 2:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Client-side validation or Server-side Validation? Rick you might be right in some audiences but I think you may be wrong in many other audiences. Larger corporations, for instance, do much more extensive security filtering. They can block javascript/activeX/etc at the firewall and they can also enforce browser settings at the desktop level. The end user may not have any participation in the security decisions nor even know that javascript has been disabled for them. They just know that some things don't work. That's a recipe for bad user experience. In general, my approach is to make javascript optional for all front end tools with an unknown audience and then tailor the use of javascript/flash/etc. in admin applications to the expected audience since it is likely to be a much better known user base. Judah Rick Faircloth wrote: > Josh, > > You refer to customers who don't have javascript enabled > as "javascript-challenged." Since not using javascript would > take some knowledge and tinkering, wouldn't it be more likely > that those who don't use javascript are advanced users and > just simply choosing not to use javascript? > > Rick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:275436 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
