> Security is another issue.

Hopefully, security can be handled by the CF code doing the
validation... as well as the use of cfqueryparam in the queries...

> I think the percentage of users with javascript 
> enabled will steadily increase but never reach 100%.

True... there will always be luddites amongst us. :o)

But with 500-lb gorillas around like Google offering apps
that are hard for many to resist, we will always inch closer
to JS (or other technologies) be the de-facto standard.

Some people prefer to never eat a Krispy-Kreme donut,
but I say they don't know what they're missing!  :o)



-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Client-side validation or Server-side Validation?

>I know you're approaching this from the perspective of handling
> those who don't use js... but I'm leaning toward assuming js,
> and letting the rest go.

In your particular application environment, I think that would be fine as 
regards form validation.  Security is another issue.


> I think it's
> perhaps time for the development community to start developing
> with js and demanding that IT personnel learn to set up secure
> environments and protect their systems and network.

Unfortunately, we as developers don't get to demand anything.  Our job is to 
make things work within the requirements of our applications.  Also 
unfortunately, for some of us those requirements include users without 
javascript.


> The "Web 2.0" functionality is going to force the issue.  With Google
> and other basically "thumbing their nose" at those who won't use js
> with apps like Gmail (at least that's what I understand), people are going
> to have to embrace js and other more risky technologies and learn to deal
> with them securely or be left behind.

Google's market cap is like $160 billion.  They can do whatever the hell 
they want.  That being said, I think the percentage of users with javascript 
enabled will steadily increase but never reach 100%.

-- Josh




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