It seems that JS is a blessing and a curse at the same time... ignore it and miss the blessing or use it and risk the curse...
>From having to create dual versions of a site, js and non-js, to backup systems of validation, there seems to be a lot of extra work involved to use JS in any form... but it offers so much possibility... -----Original Message----- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Client-side validation or Server-side Validation? > I know you're approaching this from the perspective of > handling those who don't use js... but I'm leaning toward > assuming js, and letting the rest go. Some people can afford to do that. Others can't. This shouldn't be difficult to understand. > I don't think it's too much to ask of people who want to use > sites that use js to allow it to be used in their browsers. > I know there are issues for users behind corporate firewalls, > etc., but I think it's perhaps time for the development > community to start developing with js and demanding that IT > personnel learn to set up secure environments and protect > their systems and network. I don't think you, or the "development community" in general, have any leverage with IT personnel, whose jobs are generally not tied to making you happy. IT personnel already know how to protect their systems and network, and in many cases they do it by disabling JavaScript. > I've never had js disabled on any system or network I've ever > owned or managed and I've never had a single problem with it. In all seriousness, how would you even know? Most people whose machines are exploited don't know that their machines are exploited. And when there's an IE exploit that uses JavaScript, do you know what the MS recommended fix almost always is? "Disable Active Scripting". > The "Web 2.0" functionality is going to force the issue. > With Google and other basically "thumbing their nose" at > those who won't use js with apps like Gmail (at least that's > what I understand), people are going to have to embrace js > and other more risky technologies and learn to deal with them > securely or be left behind. Did you know Gmail works if you disable JavaScript? It does. It's called the "Basic HTML" view in Gmail. They also have views for mobile devices with even fewer features. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:275528 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
