My opinion is that anything that works well for you is a framework. If you use consistent programming methods and well-written code that everyone can understand, then that's a framework.
I have several custom tags that build my pages and content areas. I call that my own framework. Regarding all the future of web development. RIAs are nice. Personally, I'm into the request-response mode, with maybe a touch of AJAX. We are wanting our students to begin using mobile phones to access our web sites. Therefore, I can't rely on Flash-based forms in most cases. Not knocking Flex and some of the other new technologies, but it seems like most companies that really push RIAs and Flash are those companies that stand to personally benefit from that technology. I have never heard one student or faculty complain that we didn't build an RIA interface. In fact, most complain about buggy DHTML editors that don't work everywhere. So, the marketing of RIAs is fine, but I'm still at the point where I haven't seen the justification, or payoff, for the type of web development that I do. >From what has been shared with the public, I can see more benefit from the back-end features of CF8. I can't wait to roll out a production web site with Scorpio! I wasn't picking on Jeff. I'm on his side. :-) M!ke -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 12:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Can I ask a question? (RE: Frameworks) > You shouldn't have to explain why you love DW over Eclipse. DW is > pretty darn awesome and I'm not scared to spread the word, either. I, > too, live in DW code view and shun frameworks. > > "Hi, I'm Mike and I'm a DreamWeaver user." I'm sorry. I honestly didn't want those comments to come across that way. I was just *really* wondering if what I wasn't already doing *was* in fact, a framework, and if, during the course of the way I and my group programs, is a framework worth looking into. I was merely trying to sort of "set the stage" for some people "in the know" to provide me with some honest, clear, advice. I'm starting to feel like we're all at a crucial turning point. RIAs, Flex, MXML, and AJAX, and now Adobe CS3. So you start to think, "should I get CS3? or is this the time when I start to look at alternative ways to get the results we've been getting?" I'm not shy about learning curves, or any of that. If a particular framework will work for me, and help me be a better programmer, then I'm on board... But what I'm most afraid of, is abandoning something that's worked so well for so long for something that just seems... I dunno... "the flavor of the day" maybe? I just see so many Framework discussions going on, and I see so many people advocating different frameworks, that I start to wonder if it's not the way to go, then I alternate back to the other side of the fence and think, "no, it's worked really well for this long, and Adobe is still delivering us good versions of Dreamweaver, so perhaps I'll just stick with that." I REALLY wonder more than anything if I do my employer a disservice by not looking into these frameworks and methodologies, but when you start to go down that road, it just seems like there are too many decisions to make and too many ways to skin the same cat. But again, opinions are like... well... you know... so please don't take mine to heart. And I certainly was purposely trying to stay away from turning this discussion into a Dreamweaver vs. Frameworks pissing contest.... so sorry if it came across that way... I'm just genuinely interested in the discussion... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:276962 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
