We actually had this discussion about Tiobe and O'rielly. One of the main reasons books sales are low is that CFWACK and the Advanced book are about all we need. Ben, Ray, and the other authors did such a great job...we don't really need O'Rielly's book (I actually thought their book was quite useless...I bought the CFMX7 book and it is just collecting dust on my shelf) I am not sure where Tiobe gets their info, but I sure see a lot of large corps using CF. Using book sales to determine the popularity of a language is about as useful as asking a shop that still uses as/400. ColdFusion may neer be a giant thanks to lackluster marketing by Allaire, Macromedia, and now Adobe,but it certainly is not in it's death throes. I get calls almost every day for contracts dealing with ColdFusion and I get paid quit well for them.
Eric -----Original Message----- From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead On 5/25/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Be sure and ask why VB6 and ASP classic are not listed ;-) While I'm no huge fan of either, if you look at objective metrics like Tiobe http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm (VB6 #5 vs CF #32) or the latest info from Tim O'Reilly's book sales information http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/05/state_of_the_co_10.html (10% market share among the major language sellers) you'll see that CF is by those two metrics not very popular. It's still a poorly researched, sensational, and idiotic article in ComputerWolrd (eg using the quote from an AS/400 shop to talk about the PC network being dead? An *AS/400* shop?) but I think we're all fooling ourselves if we think ColdFusion is poised for huge growth. The other interesting thing to take away from the O'Reilly article is the growth of *Actionscript* (I'll confirm w/ my buddy there that they include Flex there) but that's pretty solidly growing which is good for Adobe and good for our community. The Flex session/BOF at RailsConf in Portland last week overflowed into the hall which was interesting to say the least. > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 May 2007 09:50 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead > > I suggest if you really want to wake these people up send an email to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] vice president/editor in chief > > Then maybe stupid stories will be edited correctly.... > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:279228 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4

