We actually had this discussion about Tiobe and O'rielly.  One of the main
reasons books sales are low is that CFWACK and the Advanced book are about
all we need.  Ben, Ray, and the other authors did such a great job...we
don't really need O'Rielly's book (I actually thought their book was quite
useless...I bought the CFMX7 book and it is just collecting dust on my
shelf)  I am not sure where Tiobe gets their info, but I sure see a lot of
large corps using CF.  Using book sales to determine the popularity of a
language is about as useful as asking a shop that still uses as/400.
ColdFusion may neer be a giant thanks to lackluster marketing by Allaire,
Macromedia, and now Adobe,but it certainly is not in it's death throes.  I
get calls almost every day for contracts dealing with ColdFusion and I get
paid quit well for them.

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:49 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead

On 5/25/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Be sure and ask why VB6 and ASP classic are not listed ;-)

While I'm no huge fan of either, if you look at objective metrics like
Tiobe http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm (VB6 #5 vs CF #32) or the latest
info from Tim O'Reilly's book sales information
http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/05/state_of_the_co_10.html (10%
market share among the major language sellers) you'll see that CF is
by those two metrics not very popular.

It's still a poorly researched, sensational, and idiotic article in
ComputerWolrd (eg using the quote from an AS/400 shop to talk about
the PC network being dead? An *AS/400* shop?) but I think we're all
fooling ourselves if we think ColdFusion is poised for huge growth.

The other interesting thing to take away from the O'Reilly article is
the growth of *Actionscript* (I'll confirm w/ my buddy there that they
include Flex there) but that's pretty solidly growing which is good
for Adobe and good for our community. The Flex session/BOF at
RailsConf in Portland last week overflowed into the hall which was
interesting to say the least.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 25 May 2007 09:50
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: ComputerWorld declares CF dead
>
> I suggest if you really want to wake these people up send an email to:
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] vice president/editor in chief
>
> Then maybe stupid stories will be edited correctly....
>
>
>
>
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