In all fairness,

All the best programmers I've ever met have been self educated or hobbyists
turned professional.

I've never considered academic studies in any fast moving industry a
particularly good way to spend time, the curriculum is so out of date that
the skills you learn have no relevance to the current industry when you
finally graduate from the course. Short term or self study courses from
platform providers such as Adobe and Microsoft make fair sense to me as the
skills learned are so focused and the skills are relevant and useful.

Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 25 May 2007 20:52
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Absolutely amazing article - who the hell writes this stuff?

On 5/25/07, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But you'd never see an OS written in PHP or Ruby either. That
> > argument doesn't hold water.
>
> I don't think PHP would be a good choice for teaching basic programming,
> either. Ruby would be suitable for that, on the other hand.

For instance, http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/fr_ltp/index.html
(Learning to Program, by Chris Pine, which happens to teach
programming using Ruby)

Heck, MIT uses Scheme http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/projects/scheme/ to
teach programming, right? And if memory serves, in many(?) European
schools they use OCaml to teaching. Pascal used to be the one back in
my day, but I'm sure by now none of you care much about what I think
about programming :)

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