On 6/11/07, Andy Matthews wrote:
> FYI, while jQuery doesn't do this out of the box, there is a plugin to manage 
> the back
> button.

Sweet! Gotta have that back button handled, neh!

Are you using the plugin?  Does it use a hidden iframe, or another method?

I like the fact that the stuff is sorta "baked in" with dojo... from
the beginning
it was meant to be robust, which is a different philosophy than the small but
pluggable- "better" or "worse" depends on the scale of the app, somewhat.

I wasn't aware of the Accessibility aspect of dojo, which I think is HUGE (it
sorta peeves me that Accessibility takes a back seat in so many places,
which is ironic, as I've put it in the back seat of 90% of what I've done.).
Thanks, Sandra!  You'd think a fan would know that! =-P

Another exciting aspect is the Internationalization stuff- again, not so much
a plugin (but you can exclude it) as a concept-  It's important to the library
as a whole, you know?  I dig that.

Themes are slowly making their way out the door...

It's just really, really, robust.  Tests for just about everything, etc..

Part of the deal, I guess, is the bit about using ORMs vs. knowing SQL.
It's "a good thing" to know SQL, even tho it can be startlingly easy to
slap together a site now without knowing any.  It's still awful hard to do
some stuff via ORM alone, tho, so...  same applies to JS, in a manner.

There has just been a /ton/ of thought (and debate, etc.) put into dojo,
with things in mind that I think a lot of the other libraries are just now
sorta getting to the point of needing/thinking about.

It's always tougher when you didn't foresee something getting "so big",
if you read me.  Script scope separation, for instance.  Does "your lib"
handle script separation? (<--question directed toward potential library
pickers, not Andy specifically. :).

Does "your library" have ways to specify events are connected just once?
Does "your library" have a robust event system?  Will "your library" grow
with your needs, to the point of off-line accessibility?  Comet?
And do it pretty cohesively?

Do all your plugins play nice with each other?  Do /you/ (the end user)
have to verify that when you add plugin X, it doesn't mess up plugin Y?
*   *   *

With such an nice, open subject, I figured I'd throw these questions/
considerations out there, keep the good info flowing, etc..

And it's a slight battle of the libraries, which I think is good, no? =]

PS- dojo's api seems clear enough to me.  I don't have any problems with
the source, at least.  Pretty easy to see what does what, etc..

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