I work with heaps of eclipse users and I have to say its a great tool and I can totally appreciate the value of using it for development + all those excellent plugins out there.
However old habits die hard - it may not be notepad but I love using textpad lol. ;) As long as you get the job done in the time required - everyones happy. Jose On 6/26/07, Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 6/26/07, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >>Sure you can open a file anywhere on your machine, and edit it in > > Dreamweaver, but how will you test the file? > > > > But who needs to test a file directly from the editor ? > > I develop from my work station on which I have CF (3 different versions) > > and IIS installed. > > For testing I just use MSIE and Firefox on localhost, and I'm sure the > > application works > > with these 2 browsers. > > When you modify a file, just save it, and just refresh the browser > > window on the application, period. > > > Utterly incorrect. So your idea of "testing" is "running the app in your > browser"? This is just so wrong on so many levels that I don't know where > to > start. How do you test for edge cases, bad data, or any other actual bug > that you discover? This is exactly what unit tests are for. And CFEclipse > has a tab right there to run any unit test you open, automatically. You > can > also set up an ANT task to run some or all of your tests at once. Or even > to > automatically run your whole test suite every time you save a file. > > Further more, most CF files do not run independently, but from within an > > application, > > so no one would actually "test a file", the application must be tested. > > > Most CF files don't run independently in a live app, but the unit tests > should. The entire point of a unit test is to test the file in isolation > from the rest of the system, so you are totally sure what you are testing. > They are also for ensuring that new bugs can never happen again by being > added to the unit test. If I find a problem, the first thing I do is add > that situation to the unit test. Then I fix the problem. And then I know > that no matter what happens my test will always check that condition going > forward. > > I think you're getting unit testing confused with integration or > regression > testing. And for those, I still would never just open a browser and click > around the app. Sorry but that's just crazy. I use Selenium to let me run > a > full regression test on my application at the click of a button. > > If you want to have a discussion about how to test properly please start > another thread and I'll be happy to go back and forth with you. But back > to > the point of this thread (and to CFEclipse in particular) is that anyone > who > takes testing seriously wants to test directly in the IDE (Eclipse is an > IDE > not an editor). > > -- > > _______________________________________ > > REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; > > See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm > > (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:282246 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
