Thanks,
I look at it from a support contract side as well, I'm not sure but I would
have to go back and check to make sure the Oracle JDBC driver is a "Adobe"
supported model in the Standard edition when buying the support agreement.
Trust me, I really don't want to jump ship but when people keep whispering
PHP/ASP etc. to management, and the product cost is, well free. It makes it a
really hard sell. We have also had,in the past a really hard time finding good
quality CF developers. Which management also takes as a sign that CF is not
worth the effort.
Charles
On 7/30/07 3:53 PM, "John Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You can use the Oracle j2ee drivers (that comes with Oracle) to work with CF
standard. Just a little more work on your end, but it works fine.
This is for Oracle 10g, it may be slightly different for other versions..
-Find the ojdbc14.jar driver on your oracle installation -Put that jar into
your WEB-INF\lib -In coldfusion, create a new datasource and choose "other"
as the driver
-JDBC URL would be jdbc:oracle:thin:@ip:port:database
-Driver Class oracle.jdbc.OracleDriver
Now why does CF standard not just go ahead and do this for you. Well franky
I don't know, but it really doesn't matter if you have the drivers anyway.
It does confuse the hack out of people, which is bad. Wanted to make sure
you knew this before you decided to jump ship :)
John
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-----Original Message-----
From: Charles E. Heizer1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin
So, I have to agree with Dale... Adobe has put a bullet in CF. For example,
Standard Edition would be fine for me but I need Oracle access and now I
need to pay twice that just to do supported Oracle connectivity. We are an
enterprise and when I discussed this with management they came back and said
we should just invest our time in ASP.NET. We can retrain our developers,
and not worry about buying upgrades and we'll get new features as they come
out. You know, I don't disagree with them. I just recently started playing
with Visual Studio .Net, and it's far easier to write web services and
create great web content.
Adobe thanks for the memories, a user/developer since version 4.5.
- Charles
On 7/30/07 5:27 AM, "Adam Haskell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I want to echo what Sean said...I looked at CF8 and thought, "wow finally a
product that I would really label Enterprise." Not to say CF7 wasn't
Enterprise, it had some great features and was a great release, but I think
the monitoring and some of the Administration changes helped make it really
enterprise friendly. Thats not mentioning the performance enhancements,
exchange integration (which currently means nothing to Lotus Shops bleh),
and whole suite of ajax tools that really make CF shine as a UI web layer
for large Java apps.
You have to look at this product and realize enterprise is worthless to you
unless you really need super scalability. Standard has it all, albeit
limited/throttled. Sure cfthread and exchange integration and PDF (?) are
throttled but they are available and until you have 100+ (dare I say
probably more) concurrent users using the exact same functionality
Enterprise means very little. Its like a computer, my Mom doesn't need a
dual core 64bit AMD with 2gig of ram and 256mb dedicate graphics card
running iSCSI to send me pictures and read email (unless she is running
Vista then she might ;) ). Gone are the days where you have to have
enterprise to play with those nifty event gateways. If enterprise looks to
expensive to you then you probably don't need it, or you need to look at
some other Enterprise software costs and revisit in 15 minutes. Hell I say
that single move by Adobe to offer a more complete Standard Edition will
open more doors for ColdFusion than any single feature. I say Bravo!
Adam Haskell
On 7/30/07, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 7/29/07, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As for your post on CF 8 being a dead product because of the price
> > increase, note that the increase if for Enterprise. How many people
> > here (other than me) actually use or need enterprise.
>
> Me!
>
> To be honest, the difference between $3,000/CPU and $3,750/CPU is
> pretty negligible in an enterprise world. For the - new-in-8 -
> (multi-)server monitoring and RDS/Admin user management features,
> unlimited CFTHREAD and unlimited MS Exchange integration, that extra
> $750/CPU is well worth it (as well as the general reasons Enterprise
> is worth paying more for: unlimited event gateways, PDF/document
> services, reporting etc).
>
> The key thing everyone should be rejoicing about is that Standard
> Edition includes: event gateways, pdf/document services, cfthread, MS
> Exchange integration, reporting, presentation generation. There would
> be a lot of complaints if these were Enterprise only features. There
> were plenty of complaints around CFMX 7 because event gateways were
> Enterprise-only!
> --
> Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
> An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
>
> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> -- Margaret Atwood
>
>
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