>but you have to *know* all this before hand (and if you do, you can parse it 
>yourself w/out resorting to java).

Of course. I was simply talking about the usage of the class. Obviously, 
whichever method you use you must to know the string format, whether you prefer 
to parse it using string functions or using java. Though I agree java might be 
overkill here.

> and to continue to belabor this point, it's why you should stick w/the 
> standard 
> date/time formats when you display datetimes to users especial in i18n apps.

I agree 100%, but not everyone has the ability to define the format of the data 
they're working with. 


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