What would be the benefit of "owning" my own copy of CF8 if I'm going to use it on someone else's server and have to pay them to host it? Cheaper VPS?
If that's the case, I've seen VPS for $40 per month without CF8 (very basic VPS), so I'm paying $30 extra for CF8...by the time I pay for that, with CF8 costing me $1300, that's almost 4 years of CF8 before it's paid for...then it's time upgrade to CF9! (Or in my case, I'll probably use CF8 for next 20 years and jump straight to CF22 :o) -----Original Message----- From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Shared Hosting vs VPS first off crystal tech is a joke..... unless you want that ever elusive mysql sql server 2000 custom install which they seem to have. They are better than when steve owned it but every client i get that is there and i gotta call their support is a complete waste of time, you might as well call mother theresa at least that way you can at least prayer for a correct answer. second, some of your image tags might be cause for concern, when i moved everyone to cf8 all my imagecfc pages barfed but replacing them took about 20 seconds each so it wasnt so bad. And you probably don't have may java interfering tags on 4.5. Also a vps server lets you have more db's, well if you use say mysql.. you can just install it and make all you want but of course it would be better to spend another $30 a month on a dedicated db vps. And buying a copy of cf8 wouldnt hurt either, you can get it in the price but it only takes a year of "renting" it to be on par with what you can buy it for, i am about ready to do that myself. >Hi, Sean... > >Yes, the cost is not an issue. I've just never used shared hosting >or a VPS and I'm just trying to clearly understand the issues. > >Seems like VPS is a better way to go, based on the responses. > >I don't have much concern for being able to handle the setup and >maintenance of the system, since I'll still be running my server >until I'm comfortable with the new one and all my code is running >properly on CF 8. > >The two big things I've snagged on with shared hosting is the inability >to use CFX_JPG on a shared environment... that's going to cause me to >have to rewrite a lot of code. > >Also, at least with CrystalTech, I apparently can have only *one* database, >so I've to combine all my databases into one and rename every table. >Now, that's a pain... and if I ever want to separate the databases, I've >got to go through the process of breaking up the database and renaming >all the tables again. > >I still don't get that part from CrystalTech. Their features list has >"Datasources/DSNs Unlimited" >"Database Connections Unlimited" >"MySQL 5 800MB" (with my plan) > >Now for the support people to tell me that I can have only one database >and that the "unlimited" part refers to the "type of connections" doesn't >make any sense to me. If that were the case, then why are >"Datasources/DSN's" (which I would think would refer to databases) be >listed separately from "Database Connections"? And, at least in a query, >a "datasource" is typically a database for me. > >The support person must be correct, however, because I only asked when I >tried >to add my second database and the control panel warned that additional >databases would incur additional charges per month. I would have thought >the support person was wrong, if the system hadn't first warned me. > >I emailed support at that point, and sure enough, support said every >additional >database was $5 per month. I think that's a little nuts. Maybe I'm missing >something. > >Rick > > > > >> I just wonder if there are any more "gotcha's" that I haven't considered >> with shared hosting > >Your application scope is accessible to anyone else on the same server >instance which could be an issue if you put any sensitive data into >application scope. > >Your sites may become unavailable due to someone else's bad code on >your server taking down the whole instance. > >Depending on the hosting company, if someone guesses your datasource >name, they have full access to your database (depends on whether the >hosting company puts passwords in datasources or not and whether they >correctly use sandbox security - assuming they're running enterprise, >of course). > >Since you have several client sites, I would expect the cost of the >VPS to be miniscule in comparison to the ongoing income from >maintaining those sites? >-- >Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN >An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:289281 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
