> i've forgotten, what OS? on linux there was a core java "issue" (sun 
> said it 

This is on windows server 2003
> unless there's another JDK install that the cf's using i don't know 
> what else to 
> suggest except posting this issue to the core java i18n forums: 
> http://forum.java.sun.com/forum.
jspa?forumID=16

I will give that a try - thank you very much for your help :)

S 

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