Thanks for the feedback Shawn. I've put in my request for either WebManiacs
or CFObjective.

CFObjective because it does have a lot to offer for more advanced
developers. WebManiacs because what it offers for the price is too good to
pass up.


andy 

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: 2008 conferences of interest

On Jan 2, 2008 6:27 AM, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm really leaning towards this one. I've heard that it's a little 
> more in-depth than CFUnited is. Can anyone confirm this?

Well, I'm content chair for cf.Objective() so I may be a little biased (but
I'm also on the advisory board for CFUNITED)...

cf.Objective() is designed to be different from CFUNITED.

CFUNITED has long established itself as the biggest ColdFusion-focused event
in the world. It has the most attendees (over 900 in 2007), the most
speakers, the most tracks, the most sessions and covers the broadest
possible range of topics that might interest CFers. It has a lot of sponsors
and exhibitors. It has something for everyone, from a full-on "bootcamp" to
frameworks and advanced stuff and it even has non-CF topics that CFers might
find interesting such as a track on "management" stuff. CFUNITED has also
traditionally had New Atlanta and Microsoft as sponsors - and speakers -
adding to the variety.

    http://cfunited.com/go/topics

cf.Objective() is smaller (100 attendees in 2006, 200 attendees in
2007 and we're hoping for 400 in 2008 - a number we probably won't exceed in
future years in order to maintain the "small conference"
feel and the ease of networking). cf.Objective() has always been focused
just on advanced ColdFusion topics and frameworks, with an emphasis on Adobe
ColdFusion. For example, in 2007 it was *the* conference to learn about the
new features in ColdFusion 8 before its release. This year cf.Objective()
has formal tracks, including an RIA track (that is still mostly focused on
ColdFusion). There are also some two hour in-depth sessions, three of which
are going to be hands on (Advanced ColdBox, Advanced ColdSpring, Agile
Development).

    http://cfobjective.com/sessions.cfm

Is there overlap between the two conferences? Well, yes, of course there is
*some* overlap. This year, CFUNITED has a frameworks track which means it is
going to be repeating a number of talks from the
cf.Objective() frameworks track (as well as some new talks you won't see at
cf.Objective()). There are a number of other talks that you will see at both
conferences but when you look the topics published for both conferences
(cf.Objective() has the full schedule posted, CFUNITED is still selecting
more sessions) you might be surprised at just how little overlap there
actually is. Even where you might expect overlap on tracks (RIA, IDEs/Tools,
Deployment/Platform), the different focus of the conferences shows and there
is actually very little duplication.

I'm attending both conferences - cf.Objective() as an attendee, CFUNITED as
a speaker. If you held a gun to my head and told me to pick just one CF
conference to attend, I would pick cf.Objective() because I get more out of
it as an advanced CFer. If you made me pick just one conference to attend,
regardless of technology, I'd pick SD West (amazing C++ / Java / C# / design
patterns content!). If budget allowed, I'd definitely attend both
cf.Objective() and CFUNITED in North America. If money was really no object,
I'd also attend webDU, Scotch on the Rocks and MAX Europe!

Hope that helps?

Don't forget the early bird for CFUNITED ends on Saturday - January 5th!
--
Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/

"If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
-- Margaret Atwood



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