Thanks for the feedback Shawn. I've put in my request for either WebManiacs or CFObjective.
CFObjective because it does have a lot to offer for more advanced developers. WebManiacs because what it offers for the price is too good to pass up. andy -----Original Message----- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: 2008 conferences of interest On Jan 2, 2008 6:27 AM, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm really leaning towards this one. I've heard that it's a little > more in-depth than CFUnited is. Can anyone confirm this? Well, I'm content chair for cf.Objective() so I may be a little biased (but I'm also on the advisory board for CFUNITED)... cf.Objective() is designed to be different from CFUNITED. CFUNITED has long established itself as the biggest ColdFusion-focused event in the world. It has the most attendees (over 900 in 2007), the most speakers, the most tracks, the most sessions and covers the broadest possible range of topics that might interest CFers. It has a lot of sponsors and exhibitors. It has something for everyone, from a full-on "bootcamp" to frameworks and advanced stuff and it even has non-CF topics that CFers might find interesting such as a track on "management" stuff. CFUNITED has also traditionally had New Atlanta and Microsoft as sponsors - and speakers - adding to the variety. http://cfunited.com/go/topics cf.Objective() is smaller (100 attendees in 2006, 200 attendees in 2007 and we're hoping for 400 in 2008 - a number we probably won't exceed in future years in order to maintain the "small conference" feel and the ease of networking). cf.Objective() has always been focused just on advanced ColdFusion topics and frameworks, with an emphasis on Adobe ColdFusion. For example, in 2007 it was *the* conference to learn about the new features in ColdFusion 8 before its release. This year cf.Objective() has formal tracks, including an RIA track (that is still mostly focused on ColdFusion). There are also some two hour in-depth sessions, three of which are going to be hands on (Advanced ColdBox, Advanced ColdSpring, Agile Development). http://cfobjective.com/sessions.cfm Is there overlap between the two conferences? Well, yes, of course there is *some* overlap. This year, CFUNITED has a frameworks track which means it is going to be repeating a number of talks from the cf.Objective() frameworks track (as well as some new talks you won't see at cf.Objective()). There are a number of other talks that you will see at both conferences but when you look the topics published for both conferences (cf.Objective() has the full schedule posted, CFUNITED is still selecting more sessions) you might be surprised at just how little overlap there actually is. Even where you might expect overlap on tracks (RIA, IDEs/Tools, Deployment/Platform), the different focus of the conferences shows and there is actually very little duplication. I'm attending both conferences - cf.Objective() as an attendee, CFUNITED as a speaker. If you held a gun to my head and told me to pick just one CF conference to attend, I would pick cf.Objective() because I get more out of it as an advanced CFer. If you made me pick just one conference to attend, regardless of technology, I'd pick SD West (amazing C++ / Java / C# / design patterns content!). If budget allowed, I'd definitely attend both cf.Objective() and CFUNITED in North America. If money was really no object, I'd also attend webDU, Scotch on the Rocks and MAX Europe! Hope that helps? Don't forget the early bird for CFUNITED ends on Saturday - January 5th! -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:295758 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4

