I agree with Jeremy. I wrote the exam, but must admint that I did so only
because it was free. As for knowledge, if you have been kicking CF around
for a while, it should not be an issue. Does it guage if you are a master,
or even advanced? I don't think so. It was quite basic.

James

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 2:10 PM
Subject: OT RE: Certification Exam


> Well since were all being opinionated ill speak along
> the same lines as Simon.
>
> I do not believe in tests such as the Allaire Certification,
> MCSE, Brainbenc, Multiple guess tests, plain and simple.
>
> A test like this will do very little to gauge anything as
> you guys have mentioned but your ability to memorize something.
> Whats the point?
>
> Here is my example.
> Two people:
> Person A.) One fails the CF exam due to test anxiety/little working
> knowledge
> of ColdFusion
>
> Person B.) Another person passes the CF Exam with flying colors, studied
> just
> a little the night before the test.
>
> I think the failure in the exam does NOT mean you cannot accomplish
> a particular task without assisstance. Person A with a book in front of
him
> or
> her could work twice as fast as Peron B with just a little visiaul clues
> and the manual with them to figure out exact particulars on Syntax or
> exactly
> how this particular CF tag interacts with a protocol person A is
intimately
> familiar with.
>
> Does the CF Exam prove that the person gets how everything fits toghether?
> From the Kernel of the operating system on up to the final presentation of
> a CF Generated HTML page? I dont think so.
>
> I think you can ask questions that can illustrate very crudely at best
> someones problem solving skills (with multiple guess). I think essay style
> questions graded by very experienced and knowledgeable programmers (which
> would make the cost of the test prohibitive to say the least) is a much
> better gauge of a programmer.
>
> Sit someone in a room, give them three hours and all the reference
material
> to CF they usually use, assign them a particular task, review the code and
> overall structure and coherency of their particular method of solving the
> problem.
>
> In those three hours you can gauge more about someones programming skill
> than any multiple guess test is going to. Again there is still the fact
> that some people just perform miserably under pressure like that.. but
then
> again deadlines happen, a lot more often than they should.
>
> This is a really sore topic of mine. I take tests fine but I just dont see
> the point to all this certification malarky.  Honestly I cant be to sure
> I would want to work somewhere where something as easy to rig as the
> the Brainbench test is a factor for deciding if I am hired.
>
> Taking the CF Exam can be a "good" thing if you want to say that your shop
> has
> "xyz" Certified Developers or whatever, if its free of cost to you.. might
> as well. I cant see even in the most highly regarded jobs how
certification
> can be negative. Not needed, likely. Negative, I dont think so :)
>
>
> Anyways...
>
> Jeremy Allen
> ElliptIQ Inc.
>
>
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