Yes, I had the same reaction to it when I was required to take it a few years back (got sent back to jail..ahem..college during the .com fallout in 2001). Even though I had taken Basic during my JrHS and HS years several times (by choice, not grade), I still couldn't 'test out' of the class because it was QBasic (now a MS language and no longer based on line numbers)(remember 'goto 100'? ah the days...)
Over drinks and cigars I probably would start rambling on about how the teacher who taught it didn't even know what it was...but I digress. William -- William E. Seiter Have you ever read a book that changed your life? Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com Enter passkey: goldengrove Web Developer / ColdFusion Programmer http://William.Seiter.com -----Original Message----- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion: Some People Just Don't Know Any Better > -----Original Message----- > From: William Seiter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:04 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: ColdFusion: Some People Just Don't Know Any Better > > I think that having it as an alternative to QBasic would be great. > Budding > programmers could choose which course they want. QBasic, which really > isn't > used anywhere, but teaches the basics, or, ColdFusion, which is used > everywhere, has realworld applications, and can be used to teach the > basics. > > William > I don't know about that. Is there an actual university out there that's peddling QBasic? I mean I've done my share of programming in it, but it's so 1980's. C++/Java should remain as the core languages that people learn. ColdFusion should be offered as part of an elective course. When I went to school, I took Java as an elective, and also WWW programming with Perl. Perl is a fine language, but it's not really meant for web programming. Neither is Java/C++/C#, etc. CF is and has been from the beginning a language for web programming, and that's how it should be taught. As far as teaching it as a core language, I'm sorry but it just doesn't make sense. The same way that visual basic wouldn't make a good core language course. Students should learn the hard way to do things first, and then learning CF would be a breeze. If students learned CF as their core language, they would have trouble expanding their skillset with Java for example, because CF just makes things too easy for the programmer. Russ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:298303 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4

