Yes, I had the same reaction to it when I was required to take it a few
years back (got sent back to jail..ahem..college during the .com fallout in
2001).  Even though I had taken Basic during my JrHS and HS years several
times (by choice, not grade), I still couldn't 'test out' of the class
because it was QBasic (now a MS language and no longer based on line
numbers)(remember 'goto 100'?  ah the days...)

Over drinks and cigars I probably would start rambling on about how the
teacher who taught it didn't even know what it was...but I digress.

William
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-----Original Message-----
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: ColdFusion: Some People Just Don't Know Any Better

> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Seiter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:04 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: ColdFusion: Some People Just Don't Know Any Better
> 
> I think that having it as an alternative to QBasic would be great.
> Budding
> programmers could choose which course they want.  QBasic, which really
> isn't
> used anywhere, but teaches the basics, or, ColdFusion, which is used
> everywhere, has realworld applications, and can be used to teach the
> basics.
> 
> William
> 

I don't know about that.  Is there an actual university out there that's
peddling QBasic?  I mean I've done my share of programming in it, but it's
so 1980's.  

C++/Java should remain as the core languages that people learn.  ColdFusion
should be offered as part of an elective course.  When I went to school, I
took Java as an elective, and also WWW programming with Perl.  Perl is a
fine language, but it's not really meant for web programming.  Neither is
Java/C++/C#, etc.  CF is and has been from the beginning a language for web
programming, and that's how it should be taught.  

As far as teaching it as a core language, I'm sorry but it just doesn't make
sense.  The same way that visual basic wouldn't make a good core language
course.  Students should learn the hard way to do things first, and then
learning CF would be a breeze.  If students learned CF as their core
language, they would have trouble expanding their skillset with Java for
example, because CF just makes things too easy for the programmer.

Russ




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