Don,

I was responding to your suggestion and I got carried away and wrote about 5
paragraphs.... So instead of cluttering up the list I put it in a blog post:

http://www.coldfusionmuse.com/index.cfm/2008/3/13/cf8.catch.22


As a practical note specifically for you, I would mention that you are free
to use FCK editor without the Adobe implementation - and it is just as easy.
You can download the latest and greatest from the web. There is even a
custom component (and a custom tag  think) you can use. You can strip it
down to the bones as needed. We use it all the time for many applications on
CF 6 through CF 8.

Also I was interested in your off the cuff comment regarding scary script
kiddie attacks (or kitties if you like).  If I hear you correctly you mean
that you want to make sure the editor "doesn't make it too easy" to attempt
attacks. Keep in mind that there is no protection (none, zero, zilch, nada,
bupkis) provided by any client side code against attack. Validating user
input is always always always (did I mention always) a server side task -
and therefore it has little to do with which editor you use. Client side
code and validation is about convenience and the user experience - but user
submitted data must be religiously vetted on the server regardless of what
you are doing on the client. Of course CF provides some global server side
protection for XSS but not for things like HTML or SQL injection. No client
side code can protect against such attacks because, once that HTML buffer
leaves your server and is sent to the browser it is out of your control. 

Oh!  Thanks for letting me stand in for Ben. I'm also open to speaking for
Ray when he's in the john - or Dave Watts when he's busy on the phone with
Bill Gates (ha).

Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Don L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Help Adobe plan the future of ColdFusion (along that line)

Hey Mark,

I'm just tossing an idea around, absolutely no pressure on Adobe.  But I do
hope Adobe would come up with fix/patch for theirI FckEditor integration
very quickly, my beta users like its WYSIWG feature but are getting mad with
me for its slow rendering and some times it fails (cf8 standard)... some of
the alternative solutions was either only able to work in a very simple
environment or scary, script kittie attack...  I understand this is a
first-cut but Data Capture is a critical element for any business
application... Hope you would agree.  I don't like to bug Ben all the
time...





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