Well, I wasn't able to figure it out. I was able to learn alot about some things that are listed as 'should' work. I will have to do some gradual testing in the future. Make everything on one template and then start putting them into includes and then see how this effects the ajax system (I can't imagine it should, but who knows)
I did get the data to submit to the database in a different manner, which will work for now. I used a cfajaxproxy bind command which is activated by the click on the submit button. To get the user interaction, I have a onMouseDown event that sets the button to show as 'being submitted' and then I use the same event to show the 'updated' text at the top of the cfdiv in <span>. this mimicks most of the behavior that i needed, but I will have to track back to this issue later to find out what the real issue was. thank you all for your assistance. I was able to find some great resources of infomation on this topic. > Hey all, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:305833 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4

