I apologize for having posted this to the list.  It was intended to be a 
private post directly to Brian.  I was a little upset at the time that I wrote 
the post.  This is not an excuse but an explanation for my not changing the 
recipient.
 
I however stand by my original message.  While you didn't actually use the word 
idiot the underlying message, at least how I read it, was that you were 
condemning Erik for either being too stupid or too lazy to read "even the most 
basic book on SQL".  To me that's the same thing.  It also implies that YOU 
HAVE read the "most basic book on SQL" and therefore know more than the next 
guy.
 
I have found, on the MANY different lists that I have belonged to, that if you 
ignore the kind of people you all have described they eventually go away.  They 
might post the same questions over and over and over again for a little while 
but they eventually leave.  They might even throw a fit about not getting any 
help.  So what?  Who cares?  Instead of posting about how we shouldn't help 
this person because we have already tried and tried to help them and they just 
don't get it, ignore them.
 
I'm sure there is going to be more flaming for this response.  However I felt 
that I needed to explain my reaction earlier and again apologize to the rest of 
the list for this public discussion that should have been private.Thank you,
Katrina 

If people knew how hard I worked to gain my mastery,
it wouldn't seem so wonderful after all.
--Michelangelo 



----- Original Message ----
From: Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: CF-Talk <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 5:35:40 PM
Subject: Re: do not increase counter is returns 0

Katrina, I held off responding to you to wait for the other replies that I
knew would be coming. Hopefully by this point you realize that your comments
to me were rather far off the mark, and that folks with knowledge of this
ongoing situation actually agree with me.

I assume you must not have known what has gone on with Erik and hopefully
these additional postings have supplied the context that my initial reply
did not. But even still, I neither called him an idiot nor attempted to show
"how much more I know than the next guy". I would humbly ask that in the
future, before you condemn me or put words in my mouth that you please make
sure you aren't missing essential background information. I promise to do
the same. ;-)

Thanks,

Brian


On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Katrina Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I haven't been a member of this list for a few years now, but I remember it
> being a place where even the most beginning person could come for advice.
> This is a community and not a place for you to show how much more you
> know than the next guy.
> I really don't think this response is appropriate and I'm sure that most of
> the community feels the same way.  How about next time instead of saying
> "You're an idiot," you either give some good advice or don't respond?  That
> way there's no "waste of everyone else's time" reading posts that aren't
> helpful.  You might also find that you'll get better responses to any
> questions you have if you're nice.
> *Down off my soap box now*
>  Thank you,
> Katrina
>
> If people knew how hard I worked to gain my mastery,
> it wouldn't seem so wonderful after all.
> --Michelangelo
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: CF-Talk <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 9:37:46 AM
> Subject: Re: do not increase counter is returns 0
>
> If Erik would bother to read even the most basic book on SQL he could
> answer
> this himself since this could all be done in a couple of lines of SQL with
> no loops and no CFML at all. But he'd rather waste everyone else's time
> instead of spending 10 dollars. So please don't encourage him, Tom. ;-)
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Tom Chiverton <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Friday 30 May 2008, erik tom wrote:
> > > not return returns a record then do not increase the counter (this part
> > is
> > > working) Also if the query.hours eq 0 and query.minutes eq 0 also
> should
> > > not increase the counter
> > >                      <cfif getTimeAvg1.recordcount gt 0>
> >
> > <cfif getTimeAvg1.recordcount gt 0 and query.hours neq 0 and
> query.mineutes
> > neq 0> ?
> > --
> > Tom Chiverton
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