What the other James and Dave said actually makes some sense now that I 
think about it.  Read 
http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/hotspot/index.jsp-- it explains what 
hotspot optimization does.

Basically, your JVM will actually change how it is compiling code after your 
server had been running for a while and "warmed up". It keeps track of 
pieces of code that run A LOT.  Those are "hot spots" in your application 
and could use a little extra boost of performance.  Therefore, the hotspot 
compiler will compile those parts down to "optimized machine instructions". 
It is costly to do that, but if that code is called enough, it could be 
worth it because the is much faster.

What we are suggesting is that after your server has been up for a while, 
the HotSpot compiler finds some code it thinks it can optimize, but it 
crashes instead. Perhaps, if you examine the content of the error file you 
can get some info.  Generally, it's not too awful useful though.  As far as 
how to debug, I don't know.  If you provide the proper arguments to your 
JVM, the hotspot compiler will be disabled.  That will at least allow you to 
confirm if it fixes the problem.  Your overall performance will probably 
suffer though.

~Brad

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: PID errors - much simpler


> Our JVM is fully updated. No love. We have the new CFImage patch from 
> Adobe. No love.
>
> I am curious what you meant about this being a classic sign of the 
> problem.
>
> We can often go through 7,000 images without one error and then we'll get 
> two errors within 20 images of each other and then go another 5,000 
> without issue.
>
> I dont know if that is a classic sign of the problem but I am interested 
> in learning more about what you mean and how to debug it if you are 
> correct.
>
> - James
> 

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