On 9/10/08, Mark Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jamie,
>
>  So you are running JRUN/Multi-server? Is that correct?

Yes.

>Does each instance
>  have it's own JVM settings or do they all share the same JVM.config file?

It seems they all share D:\JRun4\bin\jvm.config. Is it
possible/advisable to do otherwise?

>  Also, if you are running JRUN multi-server the settings for the simultaneous
>  threads available to JRUN is very important. It is set to 50 by default...
>  But needs to be adjusted according to how many instances you are running and
>  your hardware resources. Start with 5x the number of procs/cores + 10 or 15
>  as the starting point for JRUN, then 5x the number of procs/cores divided by
>  the number of instances for simultaneous... That would be a starting point

This is the first time I've worked on a real (non dev) Web server on a
VM, so I'm not sure how that figures in. If the VM shows a single
processor, do I go with that figure, or do I find out what the host
system actually has?

Seems like 7 simultaneous threads would get me at a decent ballpark,
given 3 instances in a (presumed) 1 processor VM.

BTW, where *is* this setting for JRun?

>  but you will need to test. If you can't test then you will need to monitor
>  and adjust in real time.... Not pretty. A multi-server setup is very
>  complicated. It's a little scary running one without a staging
>  environment.... A bit of the cart before the horse :)

I'm setting up stage right now, but production is on the fast track, too.

Thanks again for the replies,

Jamie

>
>  -Mark
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Jamie Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:32 AM
>  To: CF-Talk
>
> Subject: Re: Outdated Adobe Performance-Tuning Info
>
>  Thanks for the link. I read through your and Steven's blog posts.
>
>  However, something that complicates things (I think) is that our environment
>  is like that of a web host: We have multiple CF instances per server, and in
>  many cases, many sites per instance. It would be hard to do a real-world
>  load test on this, I would think (aside from tinkering with production
>  during peak hours).
>
>  Also, CFMX *8* seems to have at least four different places where you can
>  set a max requests value, so there are even more variables to contend with
>  now. I think I'd have to defer to a better-informed person's guidelines as
>  to what is a "middle of the road" starting value for these things. I
>  wouldn't mind having the option of a single, more crude overall max request
>  setting, actually.
>
>  Further, my question about Windows-specific tuning recommendations still
>  stands. I would guess that the Windows Server 2000 Adobe recommendations
>  (including registry hacks to networking) would be applicable to 2003, but
>  since I'm not an expert in this area, I wouldn't mind a sanity check there,
>  either.
>
>  By the way, here are some shorter URLs that will survive wrapping better:
>
>  ColdFusion MX: Tips for performance and scalability
>  http://www.adobe.com/go/tn_18540
>
>  Windows platform-specific performance settings
>  http://www.adobe.com/go/tn_17277
>
>  Thanks again,
>  Jamie
>
>  On 9/10/08, Mark Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Jamie,
>  >
>  >  Testing and experience are your best guides.  I have a post on this
>  > topic  here....
>  >
>  >
>  > http://www.coldfusionmuse.com/index.cfm/2006/5/4/higher.simultaneous.r
>  > equest
>  >  s
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  -Mark
>  >
>  >
>  >  Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE
>  >  (402) 408-3733 ext 105
>  >  www.cfwebtools.com
>  >  www.coldfusionmuse.com
>  >  www.necfug.com
>  >
>  >
>  >  -----Original Message-----
>  >  From: Jamie Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >  Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:56 AM
>  >  To: CF-Talk
>  >  Subject: Outdated Adobe Performance-Tuning Info
>  >
>  >  The following articles, from early 2006, provide some guidance as to
>  > performance tuning CFMX on Windows.
>  >
>  >  ColdFusion MX: Tips for performance and scalability
>  > http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_18540
>  >
>  >  Windows platform-specific performance settings
>  >
>  > http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_17277&sli
>  > ceId=2
>  >
>  >  However, they refer to outdated versions of CFMX, JVM, Windows, and
>  > IIS. Are  more recent versions of these documents available? If not,
>  > can anyone  comment on what guidelines, if any, have changed since then?
>  >
>  >  One of the things I've noticed so far:
>  >
>  >  "Simultaneous Requests. The simultaneous requests setting on the
>  "Settings"
>  >  page of the ColdFusion Administrator has the largest impact on the
>  > scalability characteristic of an application (performance under load).
>  > This  setting dictates how many threads will be used to simultaneously
>  > process  incoming requests. For most applications, a good starting
>  > point for the  optimal value for this setting is 3 per processor--a
>  > dual processor machine  could be set to 6 simultaneous requests. The
>  > only way to find the optimal  value for this setting is to test your
>  > application under load with different  values until you find which one
>  provides the best performance under load."
>  >
>  >  There is no single setting (that I've found) in the CFMX 8
>  > administrator, as  it seems to have more granular settings (pertaining
>  > to template, flash  remoting, CFC function calls, etc.). Therefore, I
>  > don't have any guidance as  to what are good starting values for these
>  settings.
>  >
>  >  Thanks,
>  >  Jamie
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
>  

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