Thanks Ian and Dave, it was my guess that these guys were just been really stubborn, though more experienced than myself, it seems they are set in their ways.
My understanding of SQL/Oracle Dbases is that you can use them to create extra layers of security, like for example restricting user-level access to objects within the database itself, much more efficient for doing calculations etc...these guys just believes that stored proc is an old way of doing things and that I should get stored proc out of my head...they believe cfqueryparam is the solution to all problems. I was starting to think I was going mad, especially when you have 5 against 1 (myself):-).. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317086 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4

