I think that it's interesting on several fronts.  Not everyone who wants to
show everyone else what they're working on can afford their own VPS.  Not to
mention the advantage to entrepreneurs to try out ideas without investing
anything but their time.

The advantage of never having to worry about scaling the database is worth
learning a new way of doing things.  I started out on flat file databases
(dbase,RBase) so for me it's coming full circle.


Rick
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Barney Boisvert <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> That said, with Java (or more properly, the JVM) being support, any
> Java application that follows the AppEngine rules can run on
> AppEngine.  Out of the box, I doubt any of the CFML engines follow the
> AppEngine rules, but making that the case is a job for the CFML engine
> vendor, not Google.  Google has already done all they need: expose a
> JVM.  So while Google likely has zero interest in CFML, they're not
> the gate, the CFML engine vendors are.  Google has already done all it
> needs to.
>
> That said, CFML on AppEngine doesn't seem like a huge win to me.  CFML
> makes simple things simpler.  If you're building an app for AppEngine
> you don't get a relational database.  You don't get a filesystem.  You
> don't get a lot of "normal" things.  CFML is centered around those
> "normal" things and reducing the friction for using them to as close
> to zero as possible, so it's value proposition is significantly
> reduced on AppEngine where that streamlining is irrelevant.
>
> But I know someone will get a CFML app on there, simply to be able to
> say it can be done.  ;)
>
> cheers,
> barneyb
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dave Watts <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> I suspect it will happen and it will be one of the open source distros.
>  Not
> >> certain that it will require any effort on Google's part to make it
> happen.
> >
> > Google App Engine supports only the languages that Google chooses to
> > support. It isn't a virtualized environment the way that Amazon EC2
> > is. There's no VM that you can access. Google has to implement support
> > for new languages directly in the App Engine distributed runtime, so
> > adding any language is definitely a non-trivial factor. Again, I
> > strongly doubt that Google will choose to support CFML for the reasons
> > I listed earlier.
> >
> > Google App Engine is fundamentally different from Amazon EC2 in how it
> > works. EC2 is a virtualized server environment; you can run ANYTHING
> > in it by building a server image with whatever you like. App Engine
> > runs within the same distributed runtime space as Google Apps, etc.
> >
> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > http://www.figleaf.com/
> >
> > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
> > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
> > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information
> >
>
>
> --
> Barney Boisvert
> [email protected]
> http://www.barneyb.com
>
> 

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