Ta - just tried that and no records for all language groups. 

BUT that did make me realise one of my (many) errors - the database is actually 
quite complicated so I created a table (tbl_demographics) which I re-populate 
every time I run this query - and that does not collect towns with zero 
language groups and I can't see how I could. 

I think I'll leave this for a while - it's driving me nuts and wasting far too 
much time.
thanks very much for your help

Seamus 

>Hmmm ... do you get a record for every language group if you CFDUMP that 
>query or if you run it directly on the DB server?



>Hmmm ... do you get a record for every language group if you CFDUMP that 
>query or if you run it directly on the DB server? 

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