I also used to think that cfinsert and cfupdate were rubbish, then when I actually used them properly one day I came to a similar conclusion as your friend. They certainly can be very handy and time saving tags when working with simple update/insert from forms as they directly convert form field names into column names and do everything for you. Where they obviously fall down is where you need to use conditional logic in your query to determine what values may or may not be used or where you may be using values that didn't come from the form.
So I'd say he is right in the broadest sense, and these tags are especially good for newbies and developers who just learn a small set of CFML tags or use the dreamweaver builders and tools to generate code and probably never going to get into OOP or ORM. Regards -- Russ Michaels my blog: http://russ.michaels.me.uk/ skype: russmichaels MSM: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Rick Root [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 23 September 2010 16:09 To: cf-talk Subject: cfinsert/cfupdate I've been trying to convince one of my friends that using cfinsert and cfupdate is a bad idea. I recently told him that real CF programmers don't use cfinsert and cfupdate :) He responded with this: CF8 uses cfqueryparam inside all cfinsert/cfupdate statements, making it just as safe as a regular cfquery, but minus all the clunky code needed to create the query. Actually, scratch that, both queries, since without them you have to maintain both the insert and update statements separately if you add a new form field to a form. cfinsert can do in one line of code what otherwise could be hundreds, not to mention saving you all the ridiculous potential errors from not having commas in the correct place, accidentally using or not using quotes, or mis-matching insert values since the syntax of inserts is different from updates and the two lines you need to add can often be quite far apart. Call me proud to not be a real cf programmer. I just don't know how to respond to this. Rick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337385 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

