Actually, I don't use ORM for much the same reason I don't use cfinsert / 
cfupdate.  I still like to craft my SQL and I often have complex relationships 
that are easy to write in SQL and a PITA to model in an ORM.

- Jason
"Smokey the Bear’s rules for fire safety also apply to government: Keep it 
small, keep it in a confined area, and keep an eye on it."


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From: "Russ Michaels" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:30 AM
To: "cf-talk" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: cfinsert/cfupdate

That's a good point I didn't consider that ORM is just doing the same thing.
And I bet you are all happily using Transfer and Reactor in the same way.

Russ

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Scott [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 23 September 2010 16:27
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: cfinsert/cfupdate

> For me I like to be able to have as much control over my
> query statements as possible. It makes it easier to read/
> understand and to see EXACTLY what is being sent to the db.

While I generally agree with that sentiment, ORM does the same thing on a
more grand scale, and I haven't seen anyone railing against using that
technology.  Personally it's been many years since I last looked at
cfinsert/cfupdate, but if the queries that they generate are 'safe' then it
might be worth taking another look at as an option to use where appropriate.

-Justin



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