Judah, I'm not complaining, I'm stating the facts. I've been a CF developer since I was 18. I married a CF developer and the best man at my wedding is a CF developer. My intentions aren't to make Adobe rich, they are to ensure that the thousands of people who built their career on CFML can continue to be employed. You can choose to ignore what I'm saying, but it doesn't change the facts.
-Adam On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote: > > You want to know why I've been moving my projects from Adobe CF to > Railo, Adam? It's quite simple, really. Railo is a better product for > me. I've not had a very good experience with Adobe as a cfml developer > and I've had a much better experience with Railo as a cfml developer. > Yes, even with a support contract with Adobe. You can complain all you > want about a small faction trying to recklessly tear down the > community but that's bullshit. > > Railo performs faster as a product and the company is more responsive > to developers. That's why I use it. If you want me as a developer (and > it certainly seems like you don't), now you know how to get me back. I > don't have anything against Adobe as a company, I'm not an angry, > ranting open source purist. I'm happy for Adobe to make money off it's > products and I'm glad of the things they have already done in the open > source space (like the Flex SDK). > > End of the day, though, I'm here to develop great applications and > hopefully to enjoy the process of doing so. Make developers more > productive, their applications perform faster and be responsive to > their concerns and I'm sure Adobe will do wonderfully. Complaining > about open source projects isn't the way to woo me though, gotta say. > > Judah > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Adrocknaphobia > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Denny, > > > > I think you see the world as you would hope it to be, not for the reality > > that it is. A commendable quality, but not one Adobe can choose to share > > with so many CFML careers on the line. It's been 3 years since > OpenBD/Railo > > went open source and removed the price barrier to CFML adoption. 3 years > > since they gave up their attempts to compete with Adobe commercially. 3 > > years since they proclaimed "CFML is not worth paying for". > > > > At any time Adobe could have made (or will make) ColdFusion free. Problem > > is, cost is not the only barrier to adoption -- a reality many seem to > > ignore. So, 3 years later, our community for all intensive purposes seems > to > > be shrinking (we have more CF jobs than developers). On top of losing > CFML > > developers, we now have a large amount a fragmentation. It would seem > that > > anything Adobe does in the CFML space is directly combated by the "Open > CF" > > movement. Because of this, CFML has increasingly become more and more > toxic > > for Adobe. I can't tell you how hard it is to fight for this community > > within Adobe when a small external faction is recklessly trying to tear > it > > down. > > > > How can I ask Adobe to invest $$$ into growing the CFML developer > community > > when our ability to get a return is dramatically reduced? The fact is, > the > > Donna Bing's of the world (and the rest of the Open CF community) have > all > > but written off Adobe and ColdFusion. They've decided to no longer invest > > any money in CFML and won't even give Adobe guidance to change. > > > > This is an honest and genuine question: Are CFML developers better off > today > > than they were 3 years ago? At the rate of which things are progressing, > > will they be better off in 2014? Would they be better of w/o Adobe > > ColdFusion? > > > > -Adam > > > > PS. Sorry to make this all about money, but that's one of the realities > we > > have to face about our current ecosystem. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341751 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
