thanks for the solution

yes unfortunately it didn't work correctly with PNG files - only randomly 
though.
Although, the test case i found consistently not to work is an image with the 
rgb mentioned above

thanks


>> Ray, I know that but how many others will?
>>
>> when dealing with x and y, most know that it it’s the number across and
>> number down. Why confuse them more with words most will not know?
>
>Then consider it an opportunity to learn something. ;) Seriously -
>aren't we OT now? Hopefully this will solve Richard's problem.
>
>Richard - you said you tried ImageUtils at RIAForge and it didn't work
>properly. Did you file a bug report so we (ImageUtils is worked on by
>a few folks) can track it? It sounds like you said it worked for BMP
>but not PNG

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