Gerald,

I'm not sure that those 14mil out work are developers. That market is still
pretty tight. 

-Mark

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-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:12 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?


Not to start a flame war But there are 14 million ppl out of work in the US.
Many who have been out of a job for over a year.

I would imagine there are a few CF'ers/PHP'ers/Insert your stack here, etc.
who have been out of work long enough to be hurting enough to take any work
that they can get. I have been there even in good economic times when I was
self employed.

To quote Bob and Doug, $10 is $10 eh?

I agree with Sean and Matt but there are others that are not as fortunate to
have a CV as impressive as theirs.

Flame on Garth,
G!

My $0.02 and worth every penny

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Sean Corfield
<[email protected]>wrote:

>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > He may have been referring to a poster to the cf-jobs list, who offered
> > their services (and claimed better than average knowledge) at $20/hr.
> > Horrific when someone undervalues their services so much. Even worse
> > when they undervalue everyone else's by making a post like that.
>
> Yes, I saw that cf-jobs post. The guy has posted fairly often in the
> past, pushing himself as an experienced CFer for various rates i.r.o.
> $20/hour.
>
> Consulting groups tend to go in between $150/hour and $200/hour -
> sometimes even more - and even with their cut, $85/hour is about the
> least I've seen good CFers getting that way... more usually they get
> over $100/hour.
>
> > Good CF devs are a valuable commodity. Great (available) CF devs a rare
> > commodity. Don't sell yourself, and everyone else, short.
>
> Absolutely. Accepting a below market rate devalues everyone's work.
> --
> Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
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>
> "Perfection is the enemy of the good."
> -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880)
>
> 



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