Damnit. I copied the wrong link while on my phone. Sorry about that. Here is the correct link for Scott Stroz' "Make Your Model Promiscuous" presentation:
https://experts.adobeconnect.com/_a204547676/p29658172/?launcher=false&fcsContent=true&pbMode=normal Sorry again for the erroneous link previously. On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Matt Quackenbush <[email protected]>wrote: > Take a look at this presentation by a good friend of mine, Scott Stroz. > > > https://experts.adobeconnect.com/_a204547676/p99836802/?launcher=false&fcsContent=true&pbMode=normal > > This recording is from 2010, but you might also be able to find a > recording of his updated version, entitled "How to Pimp Out Your Model", > which was one of his topics at cf.Objective() 2012. I think he might have > also done it for CF Developer's Week 2011 and/or 2012. > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SII > On Jul 28, 2012 7:05 AM, "Matt Quackenbush" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm sorry, but building a database around a framework is flat out wrong. >> On so many levels. There are two basic options when designing a database >> for a web application: >> >> 1) Design your schema from the perspective of the data. >> >> 2) Focus on the model, and let your ORM (Hibernate, Transfer. Reactor, >> etc.) handle the schema design. >> >> Obviously I am over simplifying things here, but the database is the >> database. It is not part of the MVC architecture. "M" is Model. "V" is >> View. "C" is Controller. MVC doesn't give a rat's about the database. Hell, >> MVC doesn't even require a database! >> >> The bottom line is that MVC is about the separation of concerns. (Google >> "separation of concerns".) For that very reason, you should never consider >> the database when choosing whether or not to use an MVC architecture for >> the application. >> >> Am I saying that the database schema is unimportant and should not be >> considered? Hell no. I am simply saying that the database is the database, >> and the MVC architecture is the MVC architecture. They have nothing to do >> with one another. >> >> So, I again suggest that you ask questions that are specific. Your >> initial question has been fully answered. :-) >> >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SII >> On Jul 28, 2012 6:38 AM, "John M Bliss" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Perhaps it'd help you to check out a framework that "does MVC" and see >>> how >>> the tables/columns are setup in that DB...? >>> >>> For example: >>> http://cfwheels.org/docs/1-1/chapter/beginner-tutorial-hello-database >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Andrew Scott <[email protected] >>> >wrote: >>> >>> > >>> > Well I am not sure what your looking at achieving either, the question >>> you >>> > posed was answered correctly. >>> > >>> > The thing that you need to take into consideration, that everything >>> you do >>> > whether it is MVC or not has nothing to do with the design of a >>> database. >>> > The reason behind this is that something like a database is and should >>> be >>> > considered a different tier to your application design. >>> > >>> > So if you are after something more specific, the answer given is >>> exactly >>> > that, what exactly are you trying to achieve in your design? >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Regards, >>> > Andrew Scott >>> > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ >>> > Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411< >>> > http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Don <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > > >>> > > Sounds to me like you didn't understand the question! >>> > > >>> > > >Speaking from a purist perspective, the database has nothing to do >>> with >>> > > >MVC. Perhaps you should ask more specific questions so folks can >>> have >>> > an >>> > > >idea of what you're really after? >>> > > > >>> > > >HTH >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >> >>> > > >> What are some best practices in structuring the website database >>> to >>> > > >> accomodate good integration with an MVC model? >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352011 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
