Thanks guys, Russ especially for taking the time to put all that together,
most appreciated :)

I hadn't thought of the QofQ idea, that is a great suggestion. I think I
will go with that as I like the idea of having everything stored in the
database :)

Thanks again

On 2 October 2012 10:58, Russ Michaels <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> If you are talking about the content, then yes this is normally stored in
> the database and is handled by a CMS system. You would then have a separate
> version of the content for each language, and load the appropriate version
> depending on which language the logged in user has chosen.
>
> If you are are referring to the language of the site, menus, interface etc,
> then this really comes down more to preference, some folks use XML/JSON,
> some store in a database.
> Personally I would store it in the database, because form there you can
> easily generate both XML and JSON anyway plus you have ability to easily
> save revisions whenever something is edited and roll back if required.
> The reason a lot of apps use a flat file is because it allows the community
> to then produce language files for the project.
>
> What you can then do is create a TERM in English and store the various
> other language equivalents.
>
> e.g.
>
> Table: TermRefs
> TermRefID (primary key):
> Reference (varchar)
>
> Table TERMS
> TermID (primary key):
> TermRefID (foreign key):
> Term (varchar):
> LanguageID (foreign key)
>
> Table: Languages
> LanguageId (primary key)
> Language (varchar)
> DisplayText (varchar)
>
> sample data
> ==========
>
> TERMREFS
>
> 1   ContactMenuText
> 2   ProductsMenuText
> 3   SupportMenuText
>
> LANGUAGES
>
> 1   English
> 2   French
> 3   German
>
> TERMS
> 1   1   "Contact Us" 1
> 2   1   "contactez-nous" 2
> 3   1  "kontaktieren Sie uns" 3
>
> You would only need to query this lot once and then cache it and use QofQ
> of get your references, so no load on database.
>
> The TermRefs.reference is a simple understandable reference that you would
> use to contain the text and output it on to the site.
>
> e.g.
> <a href="contactus.cfm">#getterm("ContactMenuText")#</a>
>
> You would use the LANGUAGES table on your site in a dropdown list or
> whatever to give the user the language selector. Most people tend to put
> this in English, which must be annoying for the non English visitors, thus
> the "DisplayText" field, so you can actually display the Language names in
> that language.
>
> HTH
>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Edward Chanter <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > We're about to embark on a project for which locallisation is a
> requirement
> > and it's the first time I've done this. I understand the basic concepts
> > about having data containing the words and phrases needed on a website
> > stored with versions for each language but I'm trying to figure something
> > out: what's the best way to store the data?
> >
> > I see a lot of sites using flat JSON/XML/Whatever files with the
> different
> > translations but is this something that would work well coming from a
> > database? Is it more efficient to use a flat file or simply have a
> database
> > store the words and phrases in columns with a new row for each language?
> > One advantage I can see with a database option is that it makes adding
> new
> > languages a little easier for people with no access to the file system on
> > the server. It could also be managed with web forms which seems easier
> than
> > having a massive flat file with loads of XML or JSON data structures.
> >
> > The purpose of this question is to see how you all do it and whether
> there
> > are any pit-falls I should watch out for?
> >
> > Thanks ;-)
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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