The problem with this is that often, the people controlling the purse
strings are not developers, they are BIS managers brought in to control
budgets and strategy.  I am pretty sure that this is why.  They don't see a
difference as long as the functionality is the same.  Try asking a senior
manager what RAD is.....

-----Original Message-----
From: Allan Pichler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 January 2001 10:28
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Slightly OT


But ... in my humble opinion you can easily justify the purchase of a CF
server license when your development time is reduced .... AND THAT IS A
FACT!

Most evaluations of the scripting languages put cf on top regardless of the
fact that it's not free ... who would want to use ASS-P anyway!

My 5 cents!

Allan Pichler
Machine Dreams Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Sutton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 2:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Slightly OT


I think that possibly Microsoft (therefore ASP) has a stronger marketing
machine here because our technology centres are not as guided.

European countries are behind the US in software development and also in
pricing.

As an indication, CF Server Pro costs �1300 ish over here.  It is $1200(?)
in the US, so yes, thats a big difference, even for a one time purchase.

-----Original Message-----
From: Allan Pichler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 January 2001 10:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Slightly OT


That's actually a very interesting point to bring up ....

It seems that almost all european countries uses php/asp whereas over here
the market has room for all of the scripting languages .... is it the price
for a license that scares companies in europe ??

Allan Pichler
Machine Dreams Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Sutton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 2:07 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Slightly OT


Do UUnet have a CF hosting service?

Jason, any ISP that allows dedicated servers (if thats what you require)
will host CF.

The only problem you may come across is in the use of RDS which some ISP's
do not allow.  Another problem is trying to find a shared server with CF
support in the UK because I can't help thinking that CF just hasn't had the
same impact this side of the atlantic.

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 January 2001 10:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Slightly OT


UUNET, there not cheap but their support is good, sites are fast.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Lees (National Express)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: vrijdag 5 januari 2001 11:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Slightly OT



Hi All,

Can anyone suggest an ISP (Perferably in the UK) that can host Cold fusion
sites.

TIA

Jason Lees
National Express
Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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