I was going to say all that and more Dave, but I don't think he really
cares about that stuff, so I didn't bother :-)

Email and hosting are usually critical to people's business yet oddly most
people are usually not prepared to spend any money on them, and will use
the cheapest solution possible.
then you consider the other LESS IMPORTANT parts of an average business
these days are such as letter heads, business cards, compliment slips,
telephones, etc, which are rarely used in a buisness that operates via
electronic communication, and folks will spend more on this than they do on
their hosting and email.


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Dave Watts <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > But again, with business class Gmail/Google Apps, we're talking
> > about $5 per unique email address which would run me $500 per month
> > for my email users. A quite ridiculous cost!
> >
> > I get SmarterMail 11 Professional, which includes up to 250 users
> > or domains included with my Virtual Dedicated Server.
>
> As an end-user, I don't think $5 per month sounds like a lot for the
> most important network service I use. As an administrator, there is
> simply no comparison I could make between the two. What happens if
> your virtual dedicated server takes a dump? How long will it take you
> to get your users online again? What sort of data loss would they
> incur? What kind of mail quotas can you handle? What happens if a
> mailbox is corrupted? What happens if you run out of disk space? Etc,
> etc, etc.
>
> Like most everything else in life, you get what you pay for.
>
> > I've found all the online interfaces; outlook.com, gmail, and even
> > SmarterMail to be slower when it comes to handling mail than
> > desktop outlook.  There's no way an online service can compete with
> > locally installed software that I've found.  If an online server can
> > keep up with locally installed software, then there's probably something
> > wrong with the local installation.
>
> I guess it depends on what you mean by "handling mail". In general, I
> find Gmail to be much faster and more efficient than Outlook. I've
> used Outlook for many years (and you can use it with Google Apps if
> you want, via Google Apps Sync for Microsoft Outlook). If you want to
> read new mail, any client is still going to have to fetch it from the
> server. If you want to read old mail, Outlook will likely already have
> it stored, but you still have to get to it, and finding email in Gmail
> is quite a bit easier. If you want to search the contents of your OST
> or PST for something, that search can take a long time. If you search
> Gmail, it takes seconds. And of course, there's only so much mail you
> can practically store in a single OST or PST, so you typically end up
> with PST archives all over the place that you effectively can't get to
> at all unless you open them up. I have PST archives for about ten
> years worth of email that I'll likely never open again. I work with
> quite a few people switching from Exchange to Google Apps, and they're
> all the same way - PSTs all over the place.
>
> I used Outlook for years. I would never go back. It would make me much
> less productive.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
> 

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