Think you hit the nail on the head about Allaire, Jim.
I also think a significant factor is that many of the quality staff were
probably siphoned off of Cold Fusion to work on Spectra which effected the
quality/stability of the Cold Fusion updates.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim McAtee [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 2:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Server stability
One thing to keep in mind is that, except maybe for Allaire, none of those
sites could really be considered "mission critical". So, if a developer or
admin takes the site offline, or even works on the site while it's live,
causing a few errors in the process, it's generally not a big deal.
As for the reliability of the Allaire web sites, it really is pathetic.
I'm
convinced they've delegated maintenance of the site to some high school
interns.
I've never had a problem with moderate-level traffic'd sites bringing down
a
server, even when using Access. That said, there _are_ quite a few
pitfalls
that both CF developers and server administrators can fall into that
destabilize a server. The resource locking issues that have been discussed
on this list ad-infitum are the most obvious. I would expect few novice CF
coders to be aware of them. IMO, this is an oversite on the part of
Allaire
that in the long run gives CF a poor reputation.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Vuijlsteke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 6:51 AM
Subject: CF Server stability
> Hello one & all.
>
> Looking forward to your thoughts on this.
>
> I tried to access www.halhelms.com and www.fusebox.org just now and
noticed
> they were --yet again-- down. Parts of www.allaire.com go down every now
and
> then. Every so often even Ben Forta's site goes off-line.
>
> I assume that those sites were created by people that actually know
> ColdFusion.
>
> Does anyone know what is going on here? I consider myself quite an
> experienced ColdFusion coder, but it seems sometimes even the simplest of
> sites (I'm talking a db-generated menu on the left hand side, 50 visitors
> per day and that's it) can bring down a server without any discernible
> cause. And on the other hand we have sites that take millions of hits for
> months on end without even blinking.
>
> So it's not the traffic, it's not the hardware (bog standard intels with
> plenty of RAM and HD), it's not the OS (Redhat 6.2 or Win2K, CF 4.5.1
sp2),
> it's not the database (separate MS SQL servers) and it's not the
programming
> (I trust myself there).
>
> And judging from the well-known CF sites that are often down, I'm pretty
> sure I'm not the only person with these problems.
>
> My only conclusion is that the product itself must be instable.
>
> Now I'm prepared to wait for a new version if that is going to solve all
my
> problems... but will it?
>
> And in the meanwhile, would upgrading to CF Enterprise help at all? Or do
we
> look for a hardware monitoring/load balancing solution?
>
> Or do we just give up on ColdFusion for the moment and wait for Neo or
> whatever it will be called?
>
> Michel Vuijlsteke
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