Well, personally I get a feeling that this is the first nail in the coffin
of CF Application Server - see the logic - increase the price to push it up
to be in the same league as Broadvision and Vignette - drop spectra as the
webtop never worked - over price the "back end" middle ware and wait and see
if large companies buy it - in the meantime develop jrun to act as CF
Application Server - if CF 5 at new price fails - drop it like spectra and
release jrun CF at slightly increased prices to old CF Enterprise - get us
all to use that instead - etc, etc, - I'm off to buy a PHP book.....
J
-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 April 2001 12:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aidan Whitehall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:27 AM
Yes - having been in the Internet industry in Britain ever since there was
one -
I founded one of the first fully national ISP's - I can certainly endorse
the
comments of Aidan.
What few hosting companies that have been willing hitherto to support Cold
Fusion will surely do so no longer if the new pricing schema is at it would
appear to be.
Service providers of all types are used to getting things for free - Linux,
Apache, Sendmail etc.., and premium charges for CF are hardly going to
encourage
service providers in general to consider actually paying for a server side
application.
I have to say - this is extremely myopic of Macromedia (subject to seeing
the
full details) - it will push developers who may have been waivering to
ASP/PHP
etc., and other free middleware.
I still firmly believe that the best strategy would be to make CF Server
free,
and focus on marketing development tools to a much wider audience as a
result.
I think the Netscape browser is a good parallel - they had to make it free
and
open source to encourage people to use the portal. No one will pay for
browsers
anymore than they will for expensive middleware, when the alternatives are
free
and widely supported.
Adrian Cooper.
>
> Do you know how many companies offer ColdFusion hosting in the UK? I know
of
> about 10-15, none of which are large, well-known companies.
>
> Why? Demon told me it was the cost of the Application Server versus
demand.
> There response was "develop in ASP".
>
> If this pricing policy works its way through, hosting companies in the UK
> are going to be *less* likely to purchase CFAS, not more.
>
> And of the ones that have, all of them have a "price per domain" pricing
> structure. I was hoping to see "reseller" ColdFusion hosting options
appear
> in the UK where you can host multiple domains for a fixed price per month
> (as a developer, that's ideal - we stand to generate monthly revenue the
> more we develop in ColdFusion), but I can't see that happening if this
> announcement comes into effect.
>
> So, end result, less ColdFusion hosting on offer, hosting prices don't
come
> down, people reluctant to go down the ColdFusion route as it seems
> increasingly "marginialised", proprietary and costly to host. ColdFusion
> isn't particularly mainstream in the UK as it is. Why do something that
runs
> the risk of making it even less-so?
>
> This announcement stands to hit hosting companies in the short term and
> developers (who have to source hosting solutions for the applications they
> develop) in the longer term.
>
> If the price squeeze is enough, ColdFusion Server sales in the UK will
> suffer, the effects of which will cascade down to the point at which
> developers learn other languages and suggest they develop applications in
> those instead.
>
>
> Methinks Allaire/Macromedia might be trying to recoup their losses on
> Spectra...
>
>
> --
> Aidan Whitehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Netshopperuk
> Telephone +44 (01744) 648650
>
>
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