I just spoke to 3 of my clients. Coincidently, one of them is in the
process of hiring programmers. After a brief discussion, it appears instead
of hiring cf developers, "based on the Coldfusion Press release, we have
decided to extend our java staff". Fortunately my business is architecture
and not coding, but it appears my web clients are going to either a) not
upgrade their current boxes to 5.0 and/or b) find another solution for new
business. So I guess its back to programming in Java, there goes all the
free time I used for naked disco parties..... Btw when they suggested doing
stuff in Java I mentioned using JRUN as the engine, their reply was, "Right,
Macromedia dicks us on licensing in CF5 so we can turn around and use one of
their other products? No, we are going with weblogic because people know
the product and we understand its licensing structure". Another client
commented "M***** f*****, it already has a bad rap, the last think you wanna
do is make it cost-ineffective for anyone to use.... they're trying to sell
it for the price of a java app server w/o the performance". The last client
said they were going to move new business to PHP.
So here is my spin on the whole thing...
Ben Forta says "Be patient, wait to see the pricing structure before you
make a decision"
Well, I think Macromedia needs to hire a press department that has an idea
of how to relay information. In the record business, we had a saying. "If
yer gonna scream "fire" in your own movie theatre, at least wait until the
movie is over and the fire trucks are outside." That is, don't send out a
press release saying you are going to dick your loyal customers with a new
licensing scheme until you can send out that release WITH the new licensing
scheme. Further more, from the response on these lists, it doesn't appear
any research was done in regards to this new pricing structure. If Allaire
counts on selling CF licenses for revenue, it looks like if you were ever
going to sell them short on Wallstreet now would be the time, because I
don't see them selling the same number of CF5 servers as they did previous
versions and they do not make any "new" income on prior installations.
****And as I recall you can't buy previous versions after they release a new
one. So they lose those sales as well.***** If I am a hosting company I am
just going to tell my clients that "sorry you can't query a query here", and
continue to grab clients that do not need that functionality. Also, if you
are a hosting company I would buy all the cf4.5 servers you think you are
going to need for new boxes as Allaire doesn't make previous versions
available after a new release.
As for me, it doesn't really impact me. Anything I do on my own will be in
4.5. I am not going to argue Allaire's licensing plan with any of my
clients that are otherwise inclined as I don't receive a check from Allaire
to do so and my skill set gives me other options. I am curious however how
big time partners like Figleaf and Autobytel are taking this news.
As for Dinowitz and House of Fusion, Macromedia would have to be complete
fucking morons to charge the purveyor of the ColdFusion community more to
continue to be their glue.
Sean Renet.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Colón" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
> 'is there any book called "PHP by April30th"??' - lol
>
> A couple folks have asked for it, so here's the text of the announcement
that hosting partners received yesterday
> (apologies if my Netscape Communicator email program parses the line feeds
weirdly):
>
> -----
>
> Dear Partner,
>
> On April 30, 2001, Macromedia will be announcing the launch of ColdFusion
Server 5 and the ColdFusion Server 5
> Hosting Service Provider Edition, which consists of a new End-User License
for commercial hosting service
> providers.
>
> We are excited to provide you with advanced notice of our announcement of
the launch of a new Hosting Edition for
> ColdFusion 5.0 that offers Web Hosting partners improved functionality as
well as new licensing terms.
>
> Improved Functionality
>
> ColdFusion Server 5 has new functionality that will help hosters improve
the management and enhance the performance
> of hosted ColdFusion servers. It also provides existing ColdFusion users
with numerous new features that should
> drive more business for ColdFusion hosters. The following is brief
description of some of those features:
>
> * SNMP MIB (Management Information Base)- Provides performance and
availability data so that ColdFusion
> servers can be monitored from within an enterprise systems management
console.
> * Custom Logs - Provides administrators with the ability to
customize log reports for individual applications
> on a shared hosted ColdFusion server.
> * Enhanced Hardware Load Balancer Integration - Provides the
capability to run a server agent that is capable
> of passing CF application server load and application health information
to any of the popular hardware load
> balancing devices, providing a higher level of site availability and
better overall load balancing.
> * Application Monitoring- Enables server administrators to configure
custom monitors that respond to page or
> application-specific thresholds. When a threshold is passed, the server
can send an automatic notification, trigger
> an automated response, or send a notification to an enterprise management
console via SNMP
> * Application Deployment Services- Provides site archiving features
that enable easy back-up and deployment
> of applications and/or ColdFusion Server configuration data. This
simplifies server(s) management by enabling the
> easy movement of applications between servers, such as from testing to
production or from one production server to
> another in a data center.
> * Merant ODBC Drivers- ColdFusion 5.0 now includes the Merant ODBC
3.7 drivers on all platforms, including
> new wire protocol drivers which provide a consistently high-performance
interface to all popular data sources.
>
> New Licensing Terms
>
> The new ColdFusion Server 5 Hosting Service Provider Edition is for web
hosting service providers that provide
> shared hosting services (host multiple ColdFusion applications and/or
sites on a single ColdFusion server) for the
> ColdFusion platform. Starting with the release of ColdFusion 5, the
End-User License right to host multiple
> ColdFusion applications and/or sites on a single ColdFusion server will
only be included in the ColdFusion 5
> Hosting Service Provider Edition license. The ColdFusion 5 Enterprise
and Pro End-User License will no longer
> permit multiple ColdFusion applications and/or sites to be hosted on a
single ColdFusion server. Web hosters that
> are purchasing ColdFusion 5 servers to host multiple ColdFusion
applications and/or sites on a single ColdFusion 5
> server will need to purchase the ColdFusion 5 Hosting Service Provider
Edition.
>
> Web hosters that provide dedicated ColdFusion hosting services (host one
ColdFusion application and/or site on a
> single ColdFusion server), will be able to continue to host ColdFusion
customers on either a ColdFusion Enterprise
> or Pro server license.
>
> The ColdFusion 5 Hosting Service Provider Edition:
> * Will be priced on a per CPU basis
> * Can be purchased directly from Macromedia on a per CPU basis, or
through Macromedia's Commercial Service
> Providers (CSP) License Program that provides payment terms that map to a
Hosting Service Providers business model.
>
> * Will also be offered through Macromedia's reseller and distributor
channels.
>
> In an effort to help our Hosting Partners take advantage of the upcoming
demand for ColdFusion 5 features,
> Macromedia will be providing a special promotional upgrade offer. More
information regarding ColdFusion 5 Hosting
> Edition upgrade promotion, pricing and availability will be released on
April 30, 2001.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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