Paul,
Unfortunate Macromedia doesn't have a million other products to sell where
they can turn a profit by giving one big one away for free. They are not
really big enough to start playing that kind of game.
In truth the cost of the product is justified at it's current price, because
Clients are willing to pay it, and since server software is only a small
part of the application development budget. Macromedia could never survive
on onsee-twosee reduced price products sold to 'loyal' developers.
Furthermore a developer shouldn't be burdened with the responsibility of
purchasing server app software, ColdFusion Studio ships with a fully
functional app server.
- Chris
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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 11:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Hosting Service Provider Edition Eliminated
I didn't comment on it at the time, but I was intrigued by the suggestion
that MM should give CFAS away, and concentrate on productivity products for
developers. While a zero price is not what I think would be necessary for
CFAS to gain many more developers, a lower price would and would make CFAS
more price-competitive with the dark side.
I suggest MM should look at this seriously to see if they can convince
themselves there is some lower price point at which they'll do as well if
not better than they are now. Note that while a lower CFAS is in my
interest, having more developers competing is not. So my suggestion is not
entirely self-serving...
best, paul
At 07:28 PM 4/29/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Nick,
>
>Yes, the discussions on this list were definitely a big part of this
>decision, and yes, folks should voice their opinions. Macromedia (I really
>have to get used to saying that) is very committed to ColdFusion - I have
>been saying that for a while now, and I hope this proves it.
>
>--- Ben
>
>PS For the record, in the future, I think we can do without the foul
>language that several list participants felt compelled to spew. Those
>messages were not forwarded to the decision markers anyway, so they did not
>effect the decision, and accomplished nothing at all. Civility and reason
>seems to prevail, not potty mouth emotions.
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nick Texidor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 7:20 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: Hosting Service Provider Edition Eliminated
>
>
>Oh man,
>
>This is great news. Thanks Jeff!
>
>And so good to know that this list probably had an impact on this
decision!!
>
>As for those few that said they didn't want to get involved in the
>discussions about the licensing changes, price increases and the future of
>CF I hope they now appreciate the importance of discussing these things on
>the list, because if we HAD listed to your advice and kept quiet... Then
>this turn around WOULDN'T have happened!!!
>
>Now put away those PHP/ASP books... We've got some coding to get on
with!!!!
>
>Thanks MM!
>
>N
>
>
>
>on 4/30/01 8:56 AM, Jeff Whatcott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Based on valued feedback from the community, we have changed our
licensing
> > plans for shared server hosting with ColdFusion Server 5. Here's what
you
> > need to know:
> > 1. We do not plan to offer a Hosting Service Provider Edition of
> > ColdFusion Server 5 at this time
> > 2. We plan to license the Professional and Enterprise editions of
> > ColdFusion Server 5 in a way that allows you to provide shared server
> > hosting services
> > 3. We plan to introduce the Professional and Enterprise editions of
> > ColdFusion Server 5 with the same pricing as the 4.5 release
> > The broad availability of high quality, affordable ColdFusion hosting
> > services is important to the continued growth and success of the
>ColdFusion
> > community. We recognize the role of our partners in making this happen,
>and
> > we encourage partners who offer hosting services to participate our
>hosting
> > partner programs, including the Hosting Certification Program. Your
> > involvement will help us better meet your needs in the future.
> > One of the most exciting things about the ColdFusion Server 5 release is
> > that it was conceived based on suggestions and feedback from the
>ColdFusion
> > developer community. We rely on your continued involvement. Keep it
> > coming.
> > If you have any questions, concerns, or suggestions regarding the
>ColdFusion
> > business, including licensing and pricing issues, feel free to email me
> > anytime. And as you start using ColdFusion Server 5 in the months
ahead,
>be
> > sure to send your ideas for new features and functionality to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff Whatcott
> > Director, ColdFusion Product Marketing / Macromedia
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
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