Yuck. I would certianly hope that Macromedia doesn't consider using C# over
Java. One of the most exciting prospects of CF6 is it's ability to run on
any platform. I am willing to bet that the "Common Language Runtime" will
_not_ run on any platform.
It seems that Microsoft is taking another stab at killing Java, except this
time on the server side. They released "JDirect" a few years ago, which was
basically MFC for Java. What a mess. The company I was working for at the
time wanted to look into JDirect and see if it was a worthwhile platform.
IMO, it was completely worthless...An application written in JDirect wasn't
any more portable than one written using MFC!
I do love Microsoft products (I also have very little sympathy for
Netscape), but I would hate to see Macromedia handcuff themselves.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 11:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: the big export...ColdFusion.NET?
C# is really more along the lines of Java than C, actually a lot closer. If
you look at the syntax, it's almost exactly java with a few MS specific
things thrown in, that look to make the language a little more
approachable.
Not to mention it runs on what Microsoft calls a "Common Language Runtime".
Which is basically just like java's JRE. This is the essence of dotNet. All
five of Microsofts major languages( C#, C++, JScript, VB, ASP) will be able
to take advantage of it. All of them have seperate compilers except asp of
course, but still run on top of the runtime.
There are already existing programs that convert C# programs into Java and
back again...What makes this really interesting to me is that if Macromedia
extends CF to C#, the possibilities for easy access to the dotNet runtime
with CF would be very powerful. Actually now that I think about it, as the
MS world migrate to XP, dotNet and beyond, it almost seems to be a
necessity...
MS seems to be trying the same strategy against Sun, that they so
successfully used against Netscape. I dont know where I stand, but I'll
develop in Java for now. I do know one thing though. Microsoft knows how to
write documentation better than anyone around. Their sdk docs blow away the
ancient looking docs that come with Sun's JDK.
jon
----- Original Message -----
From: "John McKown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 8:12 PM
Subject: RE: the big export...ColdFusion.NET?
> Pronounced "C Sharp", I think it is the successor to C++.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Mone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:01 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: the big export...ColdFusion.NET?
>
>
> What is C#?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:36 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: the big export...ColdFusion.NET?
>
>
> Michael, before you go and learn VB, realize that vb is morphing into
> vb.net. Although the syntax is similar, the changes/improvements are quite
> drastic. You may want to skip picking up a book on the old VB and
> concentrate on learning the new stuff. Microsofts site is a great place to
> start though.
>
> <bigfatsegue>
> The whole dotNet thing is very interesting... Microsofts try at
interpreted
> code, like java.
> Which leads me to think back to Macromedia's repeatedly saying dotNet in
the
> press release that they were commited to dotNet.
> It isn't too far of a stretch to say that Neo may be ported to dotNet, and
> specifically C#, which is basically java anyway. The more I think about
it,
> the more I think it's a no brainer for Macromedia to do a C# port. It will
> probably run much faster on Windows. The only risk would be confusing the
> users as to which is better.
>
> That's my random Friday thought. Anyone have any comments?
> </bigfatsegue>
>
> jon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Lugassy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:57 AM
> Subject: Re: the big export
>
>
> > thanks for the tip, paul!
> > I keep seeing this "learn VB" tips and I was wondering -
> > are there any good and quick resources on learning VB on the net?
> something
> > you know about??
> >
> > Michael.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Mone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:49 AM
> > Subject: RE: the big export
> >
> >
> > >
> > > This is definately something I would consider "off-line" processing.
In
> > > most cases, CF is not suitable for these types of tasks, espcially if
> it's
> > a
> > > task that you'll have to repeat on scheduled basis. If this is a
> one-time
> > > event (are you sure? :) ) then you can way the time for development
vs.
> > time
> > > of processing.
> > >
> > > one time operation?
> > >
> > > Developing it in CF is probably the quickest solution. Won't be the
> > > quickest app in the world.
> > >
> > > recurring task?
> > >
> > > Do it in C, or even better, VB. It would be quicker to develop this
in
> VB
> > > than C, and the performance increase that C would give you is probably
> > > negligible. Writing an offline recurring task like this in CF would
be
> a
> > > mis-use of your CFServer's resources.
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Paul Mone
> > > Ninthlink Consulting Group
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 619.222.7082
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:49 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: the big export
> > >
> > >
> > > I need the fastest way to export 100s of 1000s of text
> > > files into a database. I need each file in a a new row like this:
> > > file1name, file1content
> > > file2name, file2content
> > >
> > > CF is too slow for this, what can I use?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > -=Michael.
> > >
> >
>
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