well i guess that's the difference.
i know my clients' business very well, whereas macromedia/allaire does not.
so they cannot tell me what is best from a business perspective for my
clients. i apply what i construe to be the best solution(s) for their
needs - from my own experience & research, whether it's CF, JSP, etc.
and btw - after i signed up for the beta program i received constant emails
about availability of beta versions and the release candidates. and from
participating in the forums at beta.allaire.com i learned quite a bit about
when to expect the release of CF5.
whereas macromedia/allaire can probably communicate more efficiently, it's
also (in my opinion) good business for the vendor/consultant/whatever to be
*proactive* and learn from what they're told by companies *as well* as what
they seek on their own.
-----Original Message-----
From: Arden Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 7:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF5 review in eWEEK
Regarding:
>> Is it allaire's responsibility to make sure *you're* up to speed?
In a nutshell -- Yes -- not from a technical knowledge point of view of
knowing how to use their product, but defintely from a product availability
and the business reasons why, I as a customer/developer/client should buy
their upgrade -- unless, of course, Macromedia is not interested in
increasing the number of upgrades they sell. They haven't said anything
directly to me or my clients as registered users about upgrading and the
business reasons why? My client's as a registered user don't even know it
exists and won't unless I tell them).
What is Macromedia's viewpoint on the "business reasons" (not techie
reasons) that a firm should upgrade to 5.0 -- can anyone point to a source
on their web site that addresses this issue (here I go hunting instead of
them providing).
Note: As a comparision, I got an annoucement from Adobe about their new
Actobat 5.0 product which I promptly went out and bought, because they also
gave me a few business reasons why to upgrade. Maybe that is one reason why
Adobe's stock is rising and Macromedia's isn't...
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dylan Bromby [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:49 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF5 review in eWEEK
as far as being *proactive*, you could have signed up for the CF5.0 beta
test and learned all about it for months before its release. is it
allaire's
responsibility to make sure *you're* up to speed? i can't imagine what my
business would be like if i waited for others to educate me about
technology.
-----Original Message-----
From: Arden Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF5 review in eWEEK
Sorry you missed my point -- I and my clients buy products from a vendor
(Allaire/Macromedia) and they choose not to keep the paying customer
informed in a proactive manner -- instead they wait for the
customer/client/developer to go to their events/websites to get information
-- is that how you as a developer behave with your customers?
Same with the thread about certification CF4.5 vs 5.0 (recent ongoing
thread) -- regarding the real truth about whether CF4.5 certifcation
transfers to 5.0 and other related issues -- some think so, some do not --
which is it -- guess who could/should set the record straight in a
proactive manner...
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-----Original Message-----
From: Raymond Camden [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 8:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF5 review in eWEEK
> Sad that this kind of insight is not available direcly from
> Allaire/Macromedia.
Eh? There is nothing in this article that is not available on either the
web
site, or in the streaming video announcements from last years DevConf (err,
which is ALSO on the web site).
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