Rarely have I read such complete and utter bullshit on this group,
you are
obviously someone who swans through life with an answer to everything
- a
totally inaccurate answer, but why should that disturb you, you are
always
right it seems.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: Kill the President
> For the record, I am not an American - I am British.
>
> Hmmm, I dont know your background, but I happen to be a graduate in
> Politics, specifially International Relations and I find your
> comments a tad
> shocking - not simply because you just sounded like a complete rogue
> (and
> idiot) but in what way caa you either suggest a better solution to
> your
> pursuits and can you even mention or comment on you own governments
> doings,
> or even how they work at all? The US system of goverment, in the
way
> it
> work anyhow, is one of the best functioning with different levels of
> government sharing power.
>
> Now for your spout.
>
> Death row is not something you can comment on as you have and never
> will
> experience of it in the UK.
Wrong - we had the death penalty for many, many years.
I would have thought that any British person would have been well
aware of
that.
> If you committ a crime then you deserver
> punishment. Think of how much money the state has saved with
> removing the
> burded of holding a prisoner for 10 years or so.... simply look at
our
> erm... well established prison service.
You should look up the cost of executing someone before spouting that
bilge.
>From http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs2.html
a.. The most comprehensive study in the country found that the death
penalty
costs North Carolina $2.16 million per execution over the costs of a
non-death penalty murder case with a sentence of imprisonment for
life (Duke
University, May 1993.) On a national basis, these figures translate
to an
extra cost of over $1 billion dollars spent since 1976 on the death
penalty.
a.. The death penalty costs California $90 million annually beyond the
ordinary costs of the justice system - $78 million of that total in
incurred
at the trial level (Sacramento Bee, March 18, 1988).
a.. Florida spent an estimated $57 million on the death penalty from
1973 to
1988 to achieve 18 executions - that is an average of $3.2 million per
execution. (Miami Herald, July 10, 1988).
In Texas, a death penalty case costs an average of $2.3 million,
about three
times the cost of imprisoning someone in a single cell at the highest
security level for 40 years. (Dallas Morning News, March 8, 1992).
>
> Global Warming is neither here nor there. People who drive cars,
> smoke, and
> industrial revolution (which got you technologically here today) are
> the
> main culprits of Global Warming
What the hell do you think the Kyoto agreement was aimed at doing?
> so get off your high horse and dont
> think
> that just because the US is a world hegemony that it can solve the
> problem....
Nobody wants the US to solve the problem on its own, just to join
with the
other countries in sorting the problem out.
> there isn't one. The planet is dying and thats a fact -
> it was
> always dying - it is old you know.
Actually it's quite young in planetary terms, but nice ostrich
impersonation - there isn't a problem with global warming? I see you
are as
well informed on this as you are about anything else you mention.
> The middle east - well that is their concern, only they can solve it
> - the
> fact you think that any worlfd power can solve the problem of
> RELIGION is
> way beyond me. When you have RELIGION you have conflict, throw in
> guns and
> you have war and death - simple solution - do away or shelve/hide
your
> religion and you have peace.
Outstanding lack of knowledge displayed about international politics
there,
are you sure about that degree?
> Oh - and the BRITISH EMPIRE is probably the biggest contributing
> factor to
> not only middle east but Asian (India/Pakistan) problems.
The British empire has been history for a very long time, I fail to
see how
it affects the situation in Israel for example.
> As for protecting their nation state erm.. that is basic IR - if we
> didnt
> protect out nation states then where would we be? I am not saying
> that by
> Stockpiling arms (something which the US or any other nation state
is
> knowingly doing)! The latter stages of the so-called "Cold War"
was
> one of
> the most stable times in the world with Zero Sum scenarios.
Very muddled thinking there, the agreements that were reached in the
final
decade or so of the cold war did produce real results, Bush and his
son of
star wars dick waving is threatening that situation and opening up
the real
possibility of another arms race.
> Get your facts straight and formulate an argument before you start
> spouting
> off about political assasinations (I still can't believe how stupid
> the
> subject line sounds). Realise that we in the UK aint saints and
that
> we
> hold a lot of responsibilty for a lot of the problems in the world.
I didn't see that he said any different, as most countries we have
problems - the difference with bush is he is destroying the work of
countries worldwide just to pander to a certain (rich) sector of US
society.
(note to the Americans reading this - I am not criticising the US or
the
American people as a whole, my apologies if I offend you in any way)
> And dont rely on the BBC for your information and education.
I think you should probably start looking SOMEWHERE for education and
information.
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