I can't believe that anyone trully thinks that tests are a waste of time.
What we are talking about here applies to all forms of testing. Reading
about CF, practicing it, and then taking a test is identical to taking A
Levels, Degree, etc albeit on a lesser level.
Of course the reults of the test may not reflect your true ability if you
had an "off" day but then that can happen with an interview in general. If
you have an off day and don't perform well you can't expect to win!...it's
as simple as that! As for people who say it isn't the interviewee's fault
if they walk out without taking the test that's ludicrous. Of course it's
their fault. If they get upset (for whatever reason) at the prospect of
having to take a test then it's their problem. Perhaps they should be
pre-warned before arriving that they will have to sit a test but even if
they aren't they should still take it. After all if I spring a test on an
interviewee and they delcine to take it it should tell me something about
them. When you employ someone you should really be looking for more than
someone who will just sit down and code. You want someone who can adapt to
different situations and are as versatile as possible. The last person we
employed (and I know he's reading this!) was relatively a beginner at CF at
the time but part of the reason he got the job was due to the way he
approached the questions in a logical structured manner, despite not knowing
the correct syntax. I mean lets face it, CFML aint hard to learn. What is
much harder is the logical approach you need to programing in general which
spans accross all languages and a test helps determine whether you have
this.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Sizemore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 July 2001 19:26
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Questions to ask for CF developer
I think company level tests are (generally) used by managers that have a
weak appreciation of the technology (and therefore no way to judge an
employee). The few times I have taken a test, and got the job, I have found
that the manager has little to no idea about the technology (and little idea
how to manage it). But, wouldn't we all love to have a supervisor that
understood the technology as much as we do?
Once during a third round interview, I could tell the company was having a
hard time judging my ability, so I offered them my CF code. I think it cost
me the job, but hey it was when I was just starting to CF (and they wanted a
Lead), and I wouldn't want to be expected to code on a level that I wasn't
comfortable with. Since I'm from a Graphic Design background, I'm used to
having a "portfolio" of work.
The company I'm at now has started giving a test (not CF) to applicants when
they walk in the door. We have had a few applicants walk out without even
looking at the test. The management here thinks they walked out because they
did not want to "face the music" or fail a test. In reality it was probably
because the applicant was blind-sided with a test up front, and was upset
about it.
After I have seen the type of companies that think a test is an appropriate
solution, I would be very hesitant to take a position somewhere I was given
a test.
But, all of this is moot when I need a job; I'll do about anything.
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