>In an OPTIMAL NETWORK conditions,

?????

>Will a server co-located in Israel perfrom as good
>as a co-located server in the US?

probably not, ime.  typically a lot worse, since connectivity and peering 
for .il is much poorer than for USA.

matter of milliseconds? yes, 500+, in some cases.

Try to telnet or develop over ftp with 500 ms delay is painful.

>Same hardware, same visitors from around the world
>(with a slight edge for US people).

>Any idea?

develop your own idea:

1. at a candidate .il hosting service, find an ip of an machine there.

2. at a candidate USA hosting service, find and ip of a machine there.

3. go to www.traceroute.org, and run a bunch of traceroutes from all 
over  to .il and to USA.

There was some @sshole in .il trying to "anonymous ftp login" into our 
machines in Paris last night from ras3-p104.hfa.netvision.net.il.  Here�s 
ping from Paris to netvision.net.il:

# ping netvision.net.il
PING netvision.net.il (194.90.1.6): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 194.90.1.6: icmp_seq=0 ttl=238 time=576.753 ms
64 bytes from 194.90.1.6: icmp_seq=1 ttl=238 time=573.519 ms
64 bytes from 194.90.1.6: icmp_seq=2 ttl=238 time=572.935 ms
64 bytes from 194.90.1.6: icmp_seq=3 ttl=238 time=573.473 ms

500+ ms is pretty poor.

In general, and I�ve dealt a lot with .il people and boxes, the net delays 
to .il from Paris are a lot worse than the 90 ms between Paris and US East 
coast.

Look at this ridiculous, but common, paris-USA-Isreal route, , noting the 
huge delay within teleglobe NewYork:

# traceroute netvision.net.il

traceroute to netvision.net.il (194.90.1.6), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
  1  bb0-eth.gw1.meiway.com (212.73.210.126)  0.449 ms  0.354 ms  0.306 ms
  2  gw1-eth.gw0.meiway.com (212.73.210.62)  1.658 ms  1.574 ms  1.597 ms
  3  serial1-0-0.msipaccess1.Paris1.Level3.net (212.73.206.9)  23.592 
ms  3.775 ms  3.421 ms
  4  loopback0.mp1.Paris1.Level3.net (212.113.2.15)  3.924 ms  4.310 
ms  4.380 ms
  5  so-3-0-0-0.mp1.London2.Level3.net (212.187.128.46)  10.274 ms  10.398 
ms  10.521 ms
  6  so-1-0-0.mp2.Weehawken1.level3.net (212.187.128.138)  78.821 
ms  79.289 ms  79.103 ms
  7  so-2-0-0-0.mp2.NewYork1.Level3.net (209.247.9.89)  79.324 ms  79.895 
ms  79.199 ms
  8  pos9-0.core1.NewYork1.Level3.net (209.247.10.42)  79.172 ms  79.030 
ms  79.138 ms
  9  teleglobe-level3-oc12.newyork.teleglobe.net (63.211.54.78)  79.465 
ms  79.635 ms  79.471 ms
10  if-7-0.core2.Newark.Teleglobe.net (207.45.222.162)  281.479 ms  81.687 
ms  81.304 ms
11  if-1-0.core3.NewYork.Teleglobe.net (64.86.83.165)  80.935 ms  81.041 
ms  81.091 ms
12  if-7-0.core1.NewYork.Teleglobe.net (64.86.83.153)  136.086 ms  111.428 
ms  203.761 ms
13  if-10-0.bb8.NewYork.Teleglobe.net (207.45.223.110)  79.875 ms  79.732 
ms  79.791 ms
14  ix-4-0.bb8.NewYork.Teleglobe.net (207.45.198.78)  574.582 ms  573.285 
ms  572.813 ms
15  swr1-hfa-v1.netvision.net.il (199.203.4.84)  573.997 ms  576.494 
ms  574.254 ms
16  swr1-hfa-v1.netvision.net.il (199.203.4.84)  573.138 ms  574.486 
ms  573.987 ms
17  rad.netvision.net.il (194.90.1.120)  574.737 ms  573.875 ms  575.094 ms
18  ftp.netvision.net.il (194.90.1.6)  574.519 ms  574.817 ms  575.461 ms

Len

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