At 06:42 PM 08/20/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Apparently, I'm not charismatic enough, because no one ever wants my help, >and to date no one I have emailed has bothered to fix their sites. > >Sure, I get nice terse emails saying "thanks for pointing out the errors, >we'll forward them on to our programmer-types", but that's it. Months >later, I go back and their site is still broken. That saddens me greatly. It all depends upon the site. But... I came onto a project a year ago. I took one look at the code (and database structure) and my heart stopped. It was that bad. As the company has no in-house CF developers, whenever they do something on the site it costs them money. They kept promising me that we could rework the site to make it acceptable, but when push came to shove they would back out. I believe I used this analogy: You want to build a house, so you buy a plot of land. You're all excited about your house and show up one day to lay your foundation. This is the point where you discover that someone already laid a foundation on your land. Although, this foundation is old and cracked. Even if it was fixed, it will not support the house you want to build on it. Do you: A) Fix the old foundation, settle for a house that isn't quite perfect? B) Remove the old foundation completely, create a new one, and build the house of your dreams? (or) C) Try to build your dream house on top of the foundation that you know will not support it? I consider B to be the ideal solution, but A to be an acceptable one. C is just a bad idea all around. After a year of lobbying (And demonstrating things like: "We can't do X because the database is structured like X" ) I have finally convinced them to allow me to rework the db. But, it was not easy. Would you approve 2-6 weeks worth of work to put you right back where you started? "If it's working now, why do I have to dump 6 weeks worth of work into the site?" Granted, almost all development from then on out everything will be cheaper, but it's hard to convince a client of that who pays more attention to the hear and now without thinking about the big picture. My point was: The developer-person could have said "Yeah, I can fix that" and the client person could have said "No money in the budget." >And you might get someone like me on the other end >that wants to send you free squishy-balls or something. You never know. Just for the record, I would kill for a free squishy ball right now. ( my last two I squeezed to death, I need a job with less stress ) -- Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: Reboog711 | ICQ: 5246969 | Phone: 860-229-2781 -- I'm looking for a room-mate in the Hartford CT area, starting in August -- Instant ColdFusion 5.0 | ISBN: 0-07-213238-8 http://www.instantcoldfusion.com -- DotComIt, LLC database driven web data using ColdFusion, Lotus Notes/Domino -- Far Cry Fly, Alternative Folk Rock http://www.farcryfly.com | http://www.mp3.com/FarCryFly -- If you lived here, it wouldn't be my house; it'd be yours. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
