Howie,

Thanks for the information. I have always found your responses professional
and informative.  I do have one (dumb) question that hasn't been made simple
enough for my feeble brain to understand.

If I have a NT/2000 server that is only going to run the iMS package (no web
server) I would need to install a license of Cold Fusion on that box to make
iMS "fully" functional/programmable?

And to follow that thought further, I would need to install a web server on
that box if I wanted web access to any admin functions that are written for
it?

I apologize for asking, I usually catch on fairly quickly, but I seem to be
missing something that's preventing the concept to gel in my head.

I am intrigued with the idea of a CF programmable mail server especially
since the one I am using (Post.Office) has turned into abandon-ware.  I
really can't complain about Post.Office, in the 4 years I have been running
it, it has been one of the most stable packages I have used and even with
it's few feature short comings I would stick with it if it wasn't being
abandoned by Open Wave.

Some of the things other than the standard features I need from the mail
server I decide to switch to is:

1) Be stable
2) ODBC access to the List server addresses
3) ODBC access to user account information
4) Be stable
5) Flexible Relay Blocking
6) Flexible IP/Domain connection refusal
7) Be Stable
8) Allow for virus scan of email attachments
9) Web mail interface.
10) Did I mention: Be Stable
11) Web based administration tools

I am more and more interested in iMS especially since others on this list
have raved about it and most likely will be contacting you off list for more
details.  Thank you again for the information.


Best regards,

Dennis Powers
UXB Internet
(203)879-2844
http://www.uxbinfo.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 12:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Mailing List Manager

Actually, it's not exactly right to say that the advanced features of iMS
have to be built...it is more correct to say that all iMS features are
built.  The reason is - iMS is a mail server platform that is very much like
a web server that uses ColdFusion in that it uses CF to perform the majority
of its functions (just like a dynamic web server wouldn't do much without
coding CF templates).  In order to get developers started on iMS development
we also provide a freeware ColdFusion application known as FusionMail.
FusionMail provides templates that make iMS into a functioning mail server
and also provide a web mail interface.  We have clients that use FusionMail
with only small modifications and with many modifications.  We also have
clients that have coded their servers from scratch.

To answer the question from Dennis Powers:

iMS is the only mail server that uses ColdFusion for processing (as a matter
of fact, the iMS technology is currently patent pending).  Because of the
unique architecture, iMS has unlimited features (if there is a feature that
you need then all you need to do is code it into the cfml of the server).
For example, we needed a list server, auto responders and email forwarding
so we coded those into FusionMail for our use.  And, these features were
coded in minutes - not hours or days.  iMS includes advanced features that
enable you to lock down your server in pretty much any way that you want
(including built-in RBL support and IP address matching).  FusionMail does
not allow unauthorized relaying by default.  It does not, however, do IP
address checking.  Suppose you do want to only allow
relaying for a range of IP addresses..then, all you need to do is the
following:

1 - assign a range or ranges of IP addresses that are allowed to relay (in
the iMS configuration)
2 - in your cfml you allow or disallow relays based on a variable called
"IPAllowed" which is set as "YES" or "NO" by the server according to the IP
addresses that you assigned in step 1.

So, basically, creating features in iMS is usually straight forward.

We also have a version of iMS (called iMS-SE) that is a replacement for the
external mail server that is required with CFMAIL.  You can install iMS-SE
and then change your CF Administrator settings to use iMS-SE as the mail
server.  This allows you to eliminate your dependence on the mail server
administrator completely and also allows you to use the advanced features of
iMS (using cfx_imsmail) including:

real-time delivery status
automatic delivery retry (no more UNDELIVR folder worries)
unlimited attachments
image embedding into html messages

Basically, there is no other CFMAIL replacement that can provide all of the
features of iMS (iMS even includes our inFusion Scheduler product which is a
replacement for CFSchedule) and all of its proven reliability (and, iMS does
not even need an external mail server like other replacement products
require).

BTW - iMS 2.1 will be released shortly with more features and enahanced
processing speed and will also be a free upgrade for all iMS users (even
those who bought 1.0).

Please feel free to ask me any questions that you may have and I'll be happy
to answer as best as I can.

Regards,

Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager
On-Line Data Solutions, Inc.
www.CoolFusion.com
631-737-4668 x101
inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Intelligent Mail Server
Join the DevCon community at www.coolfusion.com/devcon


----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: Mailing List Manager


> Currently I only have a single box for everything. As soon as I get a free
> second and some spare cash I'm getting an SQL server to do all the DB
stuff.
> This means that there is a webserver, ColdFusion server and mail server
all
> on the same box at the moment and it's all running smoothly.
> As for iMS working on a separate box from the CF server, I think it needs
a
> CF server for part of the processing but because it's all 'local', you can
> probably use the free single user license version as its just not going to
a
> different IP for its work (in most cases). Actually, I believe that you
can
> use CF Express as well as long as your just using Access.
> iMS has stuff build in for the black hole and other anti-spam stuff (no
> matter how much I dislike the organizations) and it's simplicity to add
your
> own to it.
> The main problem with iMS is that some of the more 'advanced' features
have
> to be built from scratch or bought from others. I'm talking about heavy
> mailing lists and such. The FusionMail program is good enough for the
basic
> stuff.
> Best to talk to Howie about what features are there and access to them.
He's
> on the list and is usually very fast with his responses.
>
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