Well said Kamie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kamie Curfman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: attacks
> I think this is an excellent point. We Americans have long taken our
security for granted. It is a very sad day
> indeed that we now have this wake-up call which forces us to think about
how vulnerable we can be.
>
> In the process of doing this, I simply ask (since I have seen hints of
this in a couple postings now) that we focus
> on those who have lost their lives and the family members who have been
left behind. Do not start thinking about
> those who may have "failed" at their job just yet.
>
> As someone who worked at the CIA for over six years and who worked on the
Bin Ladin topic for more than half of
> that time, I can personally attest that the American public has no idea,
no idea of the amount of effort that goes
> into combatting terrorism. Please just trust me when I tell you that you
do not know of all the times the
> Intelligence Community has saved lives both here and overseas. Please
just trust me when I tell you that you have
> celebrated holidays in peace, thanks to a few select people. Many attacks
have been stopped that you don't know
> that, that you will never about. Unfortunately, this one is not one of
them. And that is very sad. But that
> doesn't necessarily mean that someone did not do his/her job. Despite the
size of the UBL and other terrorist
> groups, within many of them only a very, very small number of individuals
are privy to the intricacies of the
> terrorist plots. Oftentimes, the "suicide bombers" and other such "grunt"
people do not even know what is
> happening until moments before. It is impossible for the American or any
other government to know everything that
> is going to happen. It is impossible for the FAA and airport officials to
catch everything.
>
> I have traveled to Israel and have flown into and out of Tel Aviv. It
took me nearly three hours to get out of
> that airport. And that was with a diplomatic passport. It takes the
average traveler 5-6 hours just to get out of
> that country. Would you really want that happening here? Would you
really be a happy person each time you were
> subject to that in the United States? My guess is no. Would the American
public be content with hiring hundreds
> or thousands of more government employees to work on this topic? Again,
my thought would be no. As a former
> government worker, I heard all the disparaging thoughts the non-government
workers had for us. Whenever
> "non-essential" employees are sent home for bad weather or fiscal
problems, people often snort and say "Aren't they
> all non-essential?" It's oftentimes only in times like this when we think
we should be doing more. Everything is
> a trade-off. We can't do it all. Furthermore, I have personally seen the
hate of the terrorist mindset up close
> and it is a very disturbing image. How can we every day combat such
powerfully emotional rage successfully?
>
> I hope I did not rile anyone's feathers, that was not my intent. I am
simply hoping to keep everyone focused on
> what really matters right now -- the victims and their families/friends.
Wait until more facts roll in before
> pointing fingers. Thanks.
>
> Kamie
>
>
> "Sicular, Alexander" wrote:
>
> > All I want to point out is that Israel has been living this nightmare
for a
> > long time. Israel is the USA's greatest ally in this horrible time. I
have
> > many friends in the IDF (Israel Defense Force) and they all know that
the
> > USA is nowhere near prepared for this type of conflict. Additionally, EL
AL
> > - the national airline of Israel, is protected like gold. Protected
better
> > then a fathers daughter. We have all flown domestically and we know the
> > total lack of security. God have mercy on those that attack the freedom
and
> > democracy of the world.
> >
> > By the way, I live in Manhattan and have friends who live and work in
the
> > downtown area.
> >
> > -alex
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:11 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: attacks
> >
> > has anyone noted that this represents a great number of air related
> > incidents arond DC.. DC where there is a no fly zone.. and where
> > surface to sky ad portable missiles are available for such stuff??
> >
> > The FAA needs to track more and better... inter and intra departmental
> > communications needs improved.
> >
> > Boston Airport needs closed for a month and everyone fired.
> >
> > People need to be held accountable. We need dedicated people and more
> > communications. All of this could have been minimized.
> >
> > I wish everyone the best in their quest to find loved ones today.
> >
> > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> > [connecting people, places and things]
> >
>
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