Alright people...We have all had a chance to voice our views. Let's now just
think about what we can do help the victims.
Brian Yager
President - North AL Cold Fusion Users Group
Sr. Systems Analyst
NCCIM/CIC
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-----Original Message-----
From: Freddy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Terrorism
Hmmmmm.... do religions that worship "a different god" not count? Take a
count.... most wars have religious as well as polical motivations. Did I ever
say "be an athiest" all I said was that more atrocities are committed in the
name of "God".
Though wars do kill people and the results can be atrocious that does not make
them all atrocities. However if you look behind the scenes of some of the wars
you mention below you will see that organized religion had a hand in it.
I do not expect to change your mind I am just stating my opinion. You do not
have to imply my religion, or in your opinion, my lack of religion is coloring
my opinion. I am just an afficiado of history and can name a few atrocities that
were religious in their roots. The Holocost, the spanish inquisition, the
crusades, the persecution of christians by the Roman Empire to name those by
reletively "modern" religion. I am sure the atrocities commited by believers of
polytheism or tribal religions were done in the name of their "gods" as well.
I did not mean to attack your "God" I am just stating that people will do almost
anything they believe is "right" in the eyes of their "God" and they rarely feel
any remorse or moral responsibility for the acts they have committed against the
innocents.
Tell me where are the morals of someone who has blown up an airplane full of
people while fighting their Jihad? Or the morals of someone who has killed an
abortion clinic doctor because they "kill babies".
Do not attempt to attack my spirtituality. It runs very deep. To my knowledge I
have never caused physical harm to any innocents nor backed down where it was my
duty to protect someone. Life is precious and worth protecting no matter what
"God" they believe in.
Thanks,
Frederic
Brian Fox wrote:
> > If you look
> > throughout history you
> > will see that more atrocities have been perpetrated in the
> > name of God than
> > for any other reason.
>
> Who coined this statement? It's been used, almost verbatim, so many times
> that it has to have some source.
>
> I'm really baffled by it. Did someone count up the body counts of Vietnam,
> Stalingrad, Pearl Harbor, the US Civil War, the French Revolution, Alexander
> the Great's casualties, etc etc etc etc and find a common religious theme?
> What about atrocities that predated monotheism? polytheism? tribal
> religions?
>
> It seems to be a self defeating argument. If religion is an opiate, then
> atheism is the truth. But then how the heck do you introduce morals into
> the picture? I mean, how do you define 'atrocity'? Atheism after all boils
> down to 'shit happens.'
>
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