To that end,

Anyone know of any good UML or similar modeling tools
that work with CF

Thanks
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shawn Grover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:57 PM
Subject: RE: (Admin) Please move OT to CF-Community


> Thank you.
>
> While this is truly a horrific thing, I have to ask myself "is a cold
fusion
> technical discussion list the right place to discuss my
> feelings/anger/outrage over such an event?"  And then I am forced to
answer
> myself "No, it is not.", Afterall, I have friends, family, and other
> resources available to aide in venting.
>
> I'll be patiently waiting for the list to get back on track.
>
> Shawn Grover
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:47 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: (Admin) Please move OT to CF-Community
>
>
> I left the threads on CF-Talk alone so people could let out their feelings
> on this a little. It was a tragic event and talking is needed. I think
that
> the time for leniency for this list has past. Please move the OT topics
and
> discussions over to CF-Community. Lets try and get back on topic which is
> tech. I don't want to seem callous but we've got to get back into focus.
>
>
> > At a time like this .. on a COLDFUSION technical list, now we have a
> bloody
> > gun control flame war???   It's one thing to express feelings about the
> > murder and maimings but flaming each other about how many weapons you
> could
> > carry on a plane like a Bruce Willis movie is just disgusting.
> >
> > You guys make me feel truly sick.
> >
> >
> > Please Michael . can't you put a stop to this lunacy??
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mike Kear
> > Windsor, NSW, Australia
> > AFP WebWorks
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:24 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Terrorism
> >
> > Paris Lundis wrote:
> > > I agree 1000% ... An armed public is a good thing.  Responsible
> > > civilians with firearms and trainging to use them with needed will
> > > twart most incidents and have been proven to reduce the likelihood of
> > > crime...
> >
> > I wouldn't directly call suicidal terrorists 'responsible people', yet
> > they would be able to get firearms on those planes as well.
> >
> >
> > > Afterall, do you think anyone wants to mess with a gun, obviously 255+
> > > people on those planes didn't.
> >
> > Fire your gun at a few windows and see how many people survive the
> > decompression. Of course you get shot very fast after that, but I didn't
> > see any last mminute parachutes on the CNN footage either today.
> >
> >
> > > People on planes are sitting ducks.
> >
> > True.
> >
> > IMHO introducing more firearms in airplanes is not unlike Mutual Assured
> > Destruction. However, when the concept of MAD was used during the Cold
> > War people sitting close to the red button were required to undergo
> > psychological testing. Introducing the concept of MAD in an airplane
> > without having people undergo psychological testing is MADness.
> >
> > Jochem
> >
>
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