Yeah, I noticed. hehe. ;o)
Rey...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Billy Cravens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:58 PM
Subject: RE: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!
> Hahah.. Too late
>
> ---
> Billy Cravens
> Web Development, EDS
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 4:33 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!
>
>
> Chris,
>
> We're not talking about why MS is a target. The discussion is about
> whether Gartner's recommendation to move to another platform makes
> sense. I don't want to harp on you but I don't want this to turn into
> another "Linux is better than MS is better than FreeBSD is better
> than..." thread.
>
> Rey...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Martinez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 4:53 PM
> Subject: RE: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!
>
>
> > Benjamin that is one of the best analogies I've heard. But back to
> > what Costas was saying. Why has Microsoft become such a target? Sure
> > they release overpriced, bloated, buggy products. Sure their
> business
> > practices are shady. And perhaps maybe, just maybe they stole a
> > couple of ideas from other companies. But why all the hate? Look at
> > all the good
> they
> > have done.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:32 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!
> >
> >
> > Sure, I'm not saying that either Apache or other web server don't have
>
> > holes, but running IIS is like walking around with a 'kick me' sign
> > stuck
> to
> > your back knowing full well it's there.
> >
> > People don't usually write viruses/worms for apache and other web
> servers...
> > they usually just hack them which is always possible, but with IIS
> > people are writting automated viruses/worms. I'd rather be hacked by a
>
> > hacker
> with
> > a sense of humour than have my how web serving directory nuked by an
> > automated program.
> >
> > My point is that you would have less exposure to risk running
> > alternatives because they aren't a massive target like IIS is.
> >
> > Benjamin
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Costas Piliotis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 6:19 AM
> > Subject: RE: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!
> >
> >
> > > You know it's funny though. A quick search at www.securiteam.com
> > > shows
> > that
> > > Apache and iPlanet have many vulnerabilities as well. Think perhaps
> that
> > > the research is simply political? Hackers seem to actually target
> > > IIS
> > boxes
> > > likely for their hatred of Micro$oft. I think there's more to this
> > > than meets the eye...
> > >
> > > Remember, nothing's ever secure. As stated in the movie The Score:
> > > "If someone built it, someone can break it".
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 12:42 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe a little OT, but my 2c.
> > >
> > > I wouldn't call that stupid at all.
> > > Consider all of the attacks aimed squarely at IIS in the past few
> months.
> > > It's only going to increase. I've had personal experience with being
> > hacked.
> > > I run 2 internal IIS development boxes for CF and an internal hack
> > replaced
> > > *ALL* index.htm, default.htm files in all folders in the web serving
>
> > > directory. Lucky more files where cfm.
> > >
> > > I'm not a 'server' admin (by title) but I can thank MS for this. If
> > > they released a tighter web server with less vunerabilities maybe
> > > there would
> > be
> > > fewer viruses/hacks that could penetrate. People shouldn't need to
> > > have
> to
> > > patch every week.
> > >
> > > Doesn't that fact indicate that just *maybe* the software itself is
> pretty
> > > shaky?
> > >
> > > Consider this quote from the article,
> > >
> > > "Gartner remains concerned that viruses and worms will continue to
> attack
> > > IIS until Microsoft has released a completely rewritten, thoroughly
> > > and publicly tested, new release of IIS,"
> > >
> > > Rewritten. That would be a good idea. Try to imagine a pair of pants
> with
> > as
> > > many 'security' patches as is and will continue to be required for
> > > IIS.
> > I'd
> > > say the pants would be more patches than pants.
> > >
> > > Just a thought,
> > >
> > > Benjamin
> > >
> > > PS maybe apache would be a good alternative.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Rey Bango" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 3:03 AM
> > > Subject: OT: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!
> > >
> > >
> > > > Now, I've always found Gartner to sway in a particular direction
> > > > based in the wind changes and the phases of the moon but this
> > > > recommendation is
> > > just
> > > > plain stupid. Check it out:
> > > >
> > > > http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-7294516.html
> > > >
> > > > Rey Bango
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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